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4 night and 5 day in switzerland

We will be leaving Paris on 25th December morning for Switzerland and leaving on 29th evening to catch night train from Milan to Rome.My wife and myself in early 30 from India. Interested in scenic trips not interested in skiing should we make our base in lucerne and do Day trips from there or we make 2 base for 2 night each. If i stay in Lucerne then what will be better Tell winter or swish. If anybody can suggest an itinerary for above mentioned days.

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I with my wife will be travelling to Venice,Paris,Switzerland and Rome
for 11 nights. My current plan is arrival in afternoon of 21st
December and leaving for Paris on 22nd by night train. Then we will be
going to Switzerland on 29th we will catch night train from Milan to
Rome. I don't have a fixed plan for Switzerland. I was thinking of
saying all four nights in Lucerne

sanjeev.iitkgp, the above is what you'd posted earlier today before you deleted that post. Working your 11 nights and the locations/dates you'd listed, this is as close a schedule as I could piece together from what little you'd indicated.

Venice for only 1 night on the 21st?
Train overnight to Paris on the 22nd?
Then Paris for just 1 night (23rd)?
Then to Lucerne on overnight train (24th)?
Then 4 nights in Lucerne? (25th - 28th)?
Then to Rome for 3 nights (29th - 31st)? I hope you're not considering trying to sightsee Milan enroute.

That is 11 nights. I can't figure how you'll have another night in Paris? And when were you leaving Lucerne for Milan? How many nights in Rome?

It would help if you would publish your ENTIRE itinerary as it's not making a lot of sense with pieces missing? It also looks seriously overloaded.

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I thought my original reply had gone missing then I realised he had deleted the post and started again, still without realising the implications of christmas travel.

timewaster.

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Luzern is probably as good a place to stay as any for the 4 nights. A good day trip would be up to Engelberg and to Mount Titlis if it is a nice day. There is also Mt Rigi and Pilatus nearby, lake boat trips.
Be aware that the winter schedules are not out yet, although nobody expects any big changes. Night trains are worth keeping an eye on though. Right now, it looks like you will have to change stations in Milan from Centrale to Porta Garibaldi to get the night train to Rome.

If you want to take a more scenic route to Milan, there is currently a train from Luzern to Erstfeld that connects to a train to Milan over the older route up the mountain and through the old Gotthard Tunnel. You would leave Luzern at 13:18 and get to Milan at 17:50, so it would be still daylight for the interesting mountain sections. Have a nice dinner in Milan before getting to Porta Garibladi station for your night train. If you want to leave later, it will be dark, so you might as well take the fast route through the new Gotthard Base Tunnel.

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Tell winter or swish.

I'm sorry but I'm having difficulty understanding that phrase.

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Thanks for reply kathy. we will be reaching Venice on 21st afternoon then leaving venice on 22nd 7pm. We will reach Paris on
23rd morning staying in Paris for 23rd and 24th leaving in 25th morning for lucerne.I will be taking night train from Milan to rome on 29th DEC i have flight on evening of 1st from Rome.

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I will be taking night train from Milan to rome on 29th DEC

When are you going to Milan, and how?

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Hi kathy i will be leaving in afternoon or evening of 29th december. No stopover in Milan just catching night train from there.

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You are leaving Lucerne to Milan on the 29th?

There's no need for an overnight train from Milan to Rome: you can get there direct on a fast train in well under 4 hours, depending on which train you take and at which time.

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Yes i know but. If i take a night train i will be reaching Rome early if i leave on 30th morning from lucerne then i will reach rome late. I am hoping couchette in night trains will be comfortable for overnight sleep.

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There is no need for a night train Milan to Rome. It is a 3-hour trip.

To be clear, theoretically you can take a night train of 8.5 to 10 hours, but it will NOT be restful. It will be horrible with changes in the middle of the night. Do not plan on sleep!

Take a train at a time that will get you into Rome to sleep and be rested so you can enjoy the city.

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Or fly from Lucerne.

Laurel, what do you think about about night train from Paris to Lucerne? I'm not sure they're direct (as in no changes) but haven't looked.

I'd cut Venice altogether and fly directly to Paris: not worth it for that little time.

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Or fly from Lucerne.

Kathy, Luzern doesn't have an airport. The nearest is Zürich, just 70 minutes away by train.

Laurel, what do you think about about night train from Paris to Lucerne? I'm not sure they're direct (as in no changes) but haven't looked.

There is no night train from Paris to Luzern. There are day trains every 2 hours, changing at Basel. It is too short for a night train.

we will be reaching Venice on 21st afternoon then leaving venice on 22nd 7pm. We will reach Paris on
23rd morning staying in Paris for 23rd and 24th leaving in 25th morning for lucerne.I will be taking night train from Milan to rome on 29th DEC i have flight on evening of 1st from Rome.

Sanjeev, Venice - Paris - Luzern - Milan - Rome makes no sense. You are going north then doubling back south. Which airport are you flying into? It would make more sense to fly into Paris, out of Rome and go: Paris - Luzern - Venice - Rome.
leaving Paris on 25th December - you are aware that 25th December is Christmas, the biggest holiday of the year! On that day, and the days before and after trains will be booked up months. Hotels and restaurants will be booked up or closed. Shops and virtually everything else will be closed.

The best trips from Luzern are trips up one of the three local mountains (Rigi, Pilatus and Titlis), and boat trips on the lake. But check what is open over Christmas.

Tell winter is lucerne ion pass vs Swish pass.

Sorry, I still don't understand that.

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There is no night train from Paris to Luzern. There are day trains
every 2 hours, changing at Basel. It is too short for a night train.

That's what I thought, Chris. You have to change trains at Basel so sleep isn't really going to happen. I didn't check about an airport in Lucerne (oops!).

Christmas is a complication.
The itinerary doesn't make a lot of sense to me either.
I'd still skip Venice.

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FYI everybody, I think the OP is talking about the 23:17 night train from Milano Porta Garibaldi to Rome, arriving at 7:17. Thus the desire to take a late train out of Luzern to arrive in Milano Centrale at 22:35, or earlier.

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"If i stay in Lucerne then what will be better Tell winter or swish".

Sanjeev, are you referring to Swiss transportation passes--the "Tell Pass Winter" or the "Swiss Pass"?

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That will take a bit of calculation in your part. add up the cost on your trips without a pass, then with. Cheapest price wins (for you).