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Toledo or another night in Cordoba

We have reservations for one night in both Cordoba and Toledo during Santa Semana, but am having second thoughts. We are not driving so transportation is an issue between these cities. We can get to Cordoba early enough to have a half day and a night there, but to get to Toledo we need to leave Cordoba by 2 or 3pm to take the train to Madrid and transfer to Toledo. I can add a day to my reservations in Cordoba. Sure hate to miss an overnight in Toledo, but rushing both cities may not be worth it. Would appreciate some advice on this.

Molly

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I liked Toledo and stayed 2 nights (one full day). It's really pleasant, although I think it can be seen as a day trip from Madrid. But in your case I don't know. You don't seem to have a lot of time.

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I like both cities a lot They are very different For me, 3 nights in Cordoba and 2 in Toledo were necessary, but many do these cities as a day trip. I think you will have to look at some RS Steves and youtube videos as well as reading a bit on each city to determine your preference.

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As much as I like Toledo, I feel Córdoba merits more than a half day and night. If you did go to Toledo you’d be rushing both cities and doing neither justice. Pick one.

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Toledo is really close to Madrid and brain-dead easy to reach by train. It makes a perfect day trip. And guess what? Everyone who goes to Madrid (which is pretty much all tourists visiting Spain), they all get on that train, and they go to Toledo as a day trip. Because it's so easy, they're already in Madrid, and they don't want to bother with a separate hotel for Toledo since it's so efficiently done by train.

Can you guess what happens?

Every day, late in the morning, the train rolls up and the crowds of day-trippers step off. Every organized tour in Spain also rolls a tour bus there. They all show up around 9:30 or 10 am, too. By 11 am the streets are jam-packed with a perfect example of over-tourism, a once-charming place that's now overcrowded and being loved to death. You do not have to do it this way.

Decades ago, when I first started learning about European travel from Rick Steves, one of the very first things I learned was this: If a place is super-popular as a day-trip destination, DONT GO THERE AS A DAY TRIP! Instead, be there when the day-trip crowds aren't – I can still quote Rick's book from memory (maybe paraphrased a bit) – "Go when all the day-trippers have all gone back to their big city hotels in Madrid with reliable plumbing" – spend the night there, and do Toledo when the day-trip crowds are gone.

The tide of humanity is quite predictable: they roll in late in the morning, they clog the streets until mid-afternoon, by 4 pm, they're all melting away, by 6 they're gone, leaving all of Toledo's magical charms intact for you, wise visitor who decided to spend the night. After they're gone, the streets are empty, quiet, charming, magical. And yours. This is the Europe you have dreamed of. Don't bypass it so you can get back to your hotel in Madrid!

Be smart: don't do exactly what everyone else is doing. Arrive mid-to late-afternoon as the tour buses and trains and all the day-trippers are rumbling away, watch and listen as the calm and quiet descend on the city. Spend the night. Savor this amazing intact medieval city for a few hours in the evening, when it's all yours and yours (nearly) alone. Sleep in the quiet old center, and get up early - as early as you can. Get out early, wander the deserted streets for a few hours in the morning. Around 9 or 10 am, you'll hear a low rumble as the tour buses approach. They will park, the doors will open and the crowds will pour into the streets you have had to yourself since the previous afternoon. Watch as the trains pull up and pour out their daytrippers, too. Check out of your hotel, move on, and don't look back - you've seen and experienced Toldeo at its best. Don't stick around to see it at its worst, jam-packed with daytrippers.

It worked for me. I loved the place.

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I agree with David. I spent multiple nights in Toledo back in 2016. Except for the Cathedral, where I waited in a bit of a ticket line (perhaps 15 minutes or so)--probably because I hit a holiday weekend, I wasn't particularly bothered by crowds, because I was going to places most people skipped, and I was walking around parts of the medieval center rather far from Zocodover Square. Everyone seemed to be on the street between the square and the Cathedral.

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David, since the RS tour we’re on does that day trip, would you advise going back for a one night stay? Thanks.

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@BarbaraJ - In that case, it’s a harder call, and depends a lot on you, your other plans, your tastes. First I’d ask this question: when exactly will the tour put you in Toledo? First or last stop of the day? Then it’ll be “shoulder season” somewhat and less crowded then, say noon. If they bring you mid-day, coming back for another taste would have some appeal. Also, what time of year? Going in mid-summer, you’ll suffer both intense crowds and really intense heat - not my favorite combination. Going in early spring or the fall? Crowds (and mid-day heat) won’t be as bad. Then there’s the question of Opportunity Cost…trip planning is all about trade offs. If you burn another day going BACK to Toledo (or anyplace), what else do you have to skip? On a very short trip, that’s gonna be a hard case to make. Longer trip, you have more flexibility. Tough call. Hope that helps a bit.

I've been to Toledo (2023) and will go to Cordoba this year, so this is not a destination comparison. I would add into your considerations the ratio of "travel time" divided over "destination time". My guess is that staying two days in either place is the better choice in this regard. Good luck and happy travels!