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Spain Train Tip #2

In the Renfe app you can buy tickets for adults or children but there is another option. If you are over 60 or disabled you can use a Dorado card for discounts of $30-35%. The card cost six euros and can be purchased in a train station or a travel agency anywhere in Spain. That discount is so good that a single $20 train trip would make you break even.

The caveat is that I actually checked a long distance train route in the Renfe app that was about $60 and selecting the Dorado card did not give any discount at all.

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We got our Tarjeta Dorada card at the airport in Madrid. It yielded meaningful discounts. If I remember correctly it worked with the Renfe app. Brad

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The Tarjeta Dorada card is a bit of an illusion. It offers discounts of up to 35% off Renfe’s REGULAR FULL-PRICE TRAIN FARES. If you’re taking high-speed trains between Spain’s major cities such as Madrid, Barcelona, Seville, Cordoba, Granada, San Sebastián, Valencia and others— you can buy online tickets in advance for as much as 80% off the full fares. The private train company, IRYO, sells its high-speed train tickets 12 months in advance of the train’s departure. Renfe often doesn’t put train tickets up for sale online until weeks before the departure date.

Renfe’s full price on a Madrid to Barcelona AVE train is $156. With the 35% discount it would be $104. But I can find non-cancellable tickets online right now for Iryo or Ouigo Espana trains on December 3 for $23. I have even seen Iryo tickets for $8 on that route. Since foreigners cannot buy the Tarjeta Dorado card until they are physically present in Spain— the deeply discounted tickets available online will already be sold out by the time you get to Spain.

To save the most money on train tix, buy them online months in advance.

www.TheTrainline.com
www.Iryo.eu/en

www.Ouigo.com

www.Renfe.com

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To save the most money on train tix, buy them online months in advance

Hi. I'll be in Spain in January, so tried to reserve tickets today using both Renfe and Trainline. Neither site would let me, saying either they were not available on that route or it was too soon (or something to that effect). I tried putting in dates in October on the same days of the week and was able to see that I could book (assuming I was able to enter my US credit card info on Renfe, which I haven't even tried), so I'm guessing you can't reserve tickets too far in advance. I'm pretty sure I could get tickets in other countries at least a few months ahead of time. Is there something I'm not understanding?

Also, I have one day of long travel, from Valencia to Malaga. It looks like I have to book a train to Cordoba, then another to Malaga separately. That was surprising.

I'm going to look into the Dorado card further, since it sounds like it may or may not help. Thank you!

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Hi KRS, There are a couple reasons that may explain why you’re unable to buy your train tix for January.
Renfe’s stated policy is that it sells high-speed train tix beginning 90 days in advance of the train’s departure date. For other trains, Renfe states it puts them up for sale 60 days in advance of the departure date.
This would mean that a Renfe high--speed train ticket for January 1 will not go on sale until October 3 and all other train tix would go on sale on November 3.
In reality, Renfe doesn’t follow its own stated policy and it sells its train tix according to no particular schedule. It’s unpredictable when any specific route will be loaded onto Renfe’s computerized ticketing system.
The Trainline contracts with Renfe to sell Renfe’s train tix. Until Renfe puts the tix up for sale, The Trainline’s hands are tied as they cannot sell them until Renfe allows them to. Occasionally I have seen Renfe’s tix go for sale on The Trainline website even before Renfe has them for sale on the Renfe website at www.Renfe.com
The other reason for the delay in being able to buy January train tix now is the European train timetable revision. Europe’s train timetables are revised two times each year. The newly revised train schedules are then released at midnight of the second Saturday of every June and again on the second Saturday of every December. ( That is December 14, 2024). I have been told it may be possible to buy Renfe train tix for January trains sometime in mid-October. We shall see.
In reality, the revised train schedules have very few changes and they remain similar to the prior year’s timetable with a few changes for some trains. You can pretty much count on 95% of Renfe’s trains departing at the same time and arriving at their destination at the same time shown on the previous schedule. There might be a change of a few minutes for some trains. So, by looking at the train schedules today you will get a good idea of which trains are the fastest and which ones you might want to be on. When the new schedule is issued in December, it will stay the same for the following 6 months. ( I have a printed Thomas Cooke train timetable from 1999 and it’s astounding how similar today’s schedules are to the ones back when it was printed 25 years ago)!
The other train companies— Iryo and Ouigo Espana ( www.Ouigo.com) have different policies as to when they put their train tix up for sale online. Iryo, puts its tickets up for sale 12 months in advance of the train’s departure. IRYO started operating trains in Spain just a couple years ago and its routes include Madrid, Cordoba, Seville, Cuenca, Malaga, Barcelona, Valencia, Alicante. and Zaragoza.

With several of those cities in your itinerary— you can buy IRYO tickets today at www.Iryo.eu
www.TheTrainline.com will show trains for all 4 different train companies operating in Spain. So, the advantage of taking a look at the Trainline’s website is you can see the fares and schedules for all 4 train companies in one place and this is a good way to shop train tix and save money! (Each train company website only displays the fares for its own trains).
Be sure to set up The Trainline’s App along with Iryo’s and Renfe’s on your cell phone in advance of when you can buy your tix because it makes buying multiple train tickets for your trip much simpler and you don’t have to reenter all your data every time you buy a ticket online. The Trainline App will store your Passport number, expiration date, address, etc making buying train tix a much faster task.
For more insight into Spain’s trains, visit www.Seat61.com. It’s a website whose editor, Mark Smith, is a retired British Rail employee with expertise in all things relating to European train systems.
Have a great trip!