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Need help with itinerary from San Sebastian to Madrid

My wife and I are fortunate to be spending 17 nights in Spain June 9-26. Usually we can nail down our itinerary and just go, but this time we are a little stuck and would appreciate some help. I've searched and read the forum for days but can't seem to find what i'm looking for. We are flying into Bilbao and out of Madrid. We've booked our first 9 nights in Bilbao and Sebastian. My plan was to spend the last 5 nights in Madrid and do some day trips. What should we do for the 3 nights post San Sebastian on the way to Madrid? We have not booked Madrid so I can shorten/lengthen as needed. Prefer to travel by train but can fly if necessary. We do not need to "see everything" and enjoy spending quality time in each location. P.S. I don't drink so La Rioja does not appeal.

Bilbao 3 nts booked
San Sebastian booked 6 nts with day trips to Biarritz, Getaria etc.
3 nts?
Madrid 5 nts not booked with day trips

Thanks for any insight.
Paul

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I enjoyed Burgos a lot. It gets many pilgrims so the pretty historic area is very lively. There's a pleasant walk along the river (as Rick says, the city is very windy). There are two nice convents/monasteries/whatever outside town. Some bus transportation is available, but possibly not every day of the week. The Cartuja de Miraflores was the one I liked best. It has an absolutely stunning Annunciation painted by Berruguete plus other religious treasures. I'm not at all religious but found the Cartuja a very worthwhile stop.

Another possibility if you're willing to rent a car would be the dramatic Picos de Europa area of Cantabria/Castilla y Leon. It's different enough from the beautiful but less dramatic Basque countryside to justify the time, but I probably would give it a stronger recommendation if you were not going to see so much of the Basque country. Potes is a really oretty old stone town.

Laguardia is a very picturesque medieval hill town near the La Rioja wine country. It has some wine bars but you don't need to like wine to enjoy the place. It's possible but challenging to get there by public transportation. It's on the Vitoria-Gasteiz / Logrono bus line. Doubt that this would be more than a one-night stop, though.

Zaragoza is very different from both Madrid and the Basque Country. I liked Teruel even more, but from the transportation standpoint, it is probably a bridge too far.

Salamanca has a huge historic district and could be a 2-night stay.

Toledo is fabulous, and I was glad to have three nights there. Others are put off by how quiet the city gets when all the day-trippers have left, but I have usually crashed by then, anyway.

Cuenca (inexpensive AVE trip if tickets bought early enough) could be a day trip from Madrid or an overnight stay. Very nice medieval distict and a couple of good modern-art museums. You'd need to take a bus or a taxi from the AVE station into town, and I think buses are infrequent on weekends.

I imagine Segovia is already on your daytrip list, but I thought it was worth an overnight stay.

Two less common destinations I enjoyed visiting from Madrid are Alcala de Henares, a very pretty university town accessible via local train, and Chinchon, a small historic town reachable by bus.

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Break the train journey down, heading back to Madrid, at some less visited places, perfect for 1 night stays.

Day 1
TRN18012
Dep 11:19 SAN SEBASTIAN/DONOSTIA
Arr 14:23 BURGOS ROSA DE LIMA

Day 2
TRN18012
Dep 14:24 BURGOS ROSA DE LIMA
Arr 15:53 VALLADOLID

Day 3
TRN18004
Dep 14:55 VALLADOLID
Arr 16:18 AVILA

Day 4
TRN18004
Dep 16:20 AVILA
Arr 18:07 MADRID-CHAMARTIN

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acraven- thank you for the excellent ideas, they will be useful for day trip planning. I kept looking at Burgos as it's on the train line to Madrid so it's good to know that you enjoyed the area.

David- after reading hundreds of forum posts I was hoping that you would comment. I like your idea. If we did 2 nights in Burgos and had to pick one night in Valladolid or Avila, which one would you suggest?

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Thanks Paul, what a nice thing to say.

I've not been to any of these three places. Valladolid appeals to me, not only because it is an important city historically, politically and culturally (with many fine old buildings) but it is a wine producing region and home to one of my favourites - Ribere del Douro. Also, it's out of the way locations means you may not travel this way again any time soon.

https://www.thecrazytourist.com/15-best-things-valladolid-spain/

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27112 posts

I don't know Valladolid but was underwhelmed by Avila, though I do love a walled city. A lot of guide books indicate that Avila is just worth a few hours, and that was it for me. Not a bad place but just not as interesting as so many others. I'd take a shot at Valladolid, sight unseen.