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Need help on 9-day itinerary for NE Spain

Hi, I arrive in Madrid on 4/11, leave from Barcelona on 4/20. I'd prefer to have a more relaxed exploration of the region. I'm in my 30s and don't mind lots of walking, hiking, public transport. Here's what I have so far:

4/11 - arrive in Madrid
4/12 - walk around and check out some sights
4/13 - day trip to Toledo
4/14 - travel to some town on the way to Barcelona, perhaps Zaragoza or Huesca (any other ideas?) for a 2-3 nights to explore around
4/16 - day trip to San Juan de la Pena and Loarre castle if possible (maybe it's not)
4/17 - travel to Barcelona, sightseeing for a couple days
4/19 - day trip to someplace (Girona or Tarragona?)
4/20 - easy morning where I'm staying heading out that afternoon

Mostly interested in where to stay in between Madrid and Barcelona for a 2-3 days and recommendations a day trip from Barcelona.

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Well, everyone has his own travel style of course, but from "my" point of view I'd ask: are you kidding?... do you really intend to arrive to Barcelona on the 17th, invest two days going elsewhere and then have a "light morning" on the 20th?... suit yourself but you ain't gonna see anything at all from Barcelona. The city has so much to offer in any field (art, architecture, history, traditions, culture, music, heritage... or purely entertainment if that's what you're after) that you could spend a whole month doing different activities morning, afternoon and evening and never repeat one. So, what do you exactly expect to see in a day and a half? My strong advice is to do a bit of background research first :))

You can start, if you want, somewhere here:

  1. http://www.barcelonaturisme.com/wv3/en/
  2. http://www.infocatalonia.eu/
  3. http://www.timeout.com/barcelona
  4. http://lameva.barcelona.cat/en

and, in case you're unaware, Spain is not a country -in the traditional sense- it's rather a conglomerate of different cultures descending from historical kingdoms with very different backgrounds and influences... thus, what you call "the North East" region is, in fact, two different cultures: Aragón and Catalonia. Starting by investigating this could give you some idea on what to see/to do. For Catalonia's... http://act.gencat.cat/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Welcome.pdf

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Hi Joe
Seems a little rushed to me, even for a 30-year old. I would recommend at least 2 nights in each location, so perhaps pare down the number of cities a bit. And you'll need more travel time, too, between cities. We had 3 days each in Barcelona and Madrid, when we were traveling with our adult kids about your age. Sounds like you have the flexibility to seeing where each day brings, lingering in one place longer than you thought, if the spirit strikes.

Spain is beautiful and friendly....and relaxed! Their nights go very late, too!

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If I spent a couple nights at one place between Madrid and Barcelona, any recommendations on where to stay? I was thinking Zaragoza or Hueca only because they are on the main train route I think, but open to other suggestions for me to consider.

I know Barcelona is a great city and I couldn't hope to see that much in 2 days spent in town, but the hightlights would be fine. In the past, I've spent 4-7 days in large cities with lots to see, but I had a more enjoyable time in the small towns excursions.

Thanks!

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There too Joe, you're missing a lot... check out the introductory brochure I added above about Catalonia, and you'll see there are literally dozens and dozens of small towns and landscapes worthwhile seeing from any of the picturesque coastal towns like for example in Costa Brava, to the impressive mountain ranges of say the Pyrenees, the dense forests teamed with wildlife like Aigüestortes or Montserrat, countless historical towns like Besalú or Miravet or Montblanc among many other, etc. ... or for a more visual clue, simply browse some of the videos at www.infocatalonia.eu... Asking if you're "missing anything special" is foolish, as I said, further research is advised. :))

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Got it. I realize just about town has something special, which is why I've been getting overwhelmed going through the guidebooks. I'm quite familiar with the political and historical particulars of Spain and its autonomous regions as I've already done quite a bit of background research. Sorry if my characterizations of looking for the highlights/must-see places given my very limited timeframe on this trip came off as stupid or offensive.

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Seems like you'll spend more time traveling than seeing the places you want to visit. There's nothing worse than getting into a town and by the time you check into your hotel and eat dinner there's little time left to enjoy the town before you go to bed then leave in the morning.

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Exactly. Which is why I was asking what's a good town to stay in for a couple nights between Barcelona and Madrid. Thanks.

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Don't feel pressured to travel at someone else's pace. Make your schedule to fit your travel style and interests.

One thing is that daytrips can always be done on the fly, or not. You have three destinations for overnights, which is a decent amount for a trip of your length. The decision to actually do a daytrip can be based on many factors, like weather, energy, interest, etc...

I have not been to either Zaragoza or Huesca. I have heard good things about Zaragoza and would stop there personally on a future trip. A 2 night stay should give you plenty of time to explore the city and see something else nearby.

Toledo will be different than any other city on your list here. I'd try and squeeze it in, even if just a daytrip. I personally feel that Madrid can be seen in a day and a half or two days, depending on how into art museums you are.

Girona is picturesque with its river running through town. It's a quick trip on the high-speed AVE train.

Tarragona is filled with Roman ruins, including a good coliseum along the coastline. Also a very nice archeology museum and some more minor ruins. Makes a good daytrip.

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I have not seen Huesca. I spent 3 nights in Zaragoza last year, taking 2 day trips, and enjoyed the 4 hours or so I spent walking around the city. (I also spent 10 nights in Barcelona and 3 in Girona.) Zaragoza could have used some more time, I know. Its old town is attractive and seemed very lively; I was surprised at how many English-speaking tourists had found their way there. Zaragoza has an interesting restored Moorish palace as well. The bus/train station is in a rather isolated location with not much in the way of food options within convenient walking distance, so I urge you not to stay in that area if eating near your hotel figures in your plans.

Since you like smaller cities: There are two nice side-trips from Zaragoza. One of the most visually interesting towns I've visited is Teruel, with Mudejar towers as well as some nice early-20th-century architecture. But it means a lot of time on the train for a day-trip. The positive by-product of that is that few non-Spanish tourists find their way there.

The smaller town of Tarazona is also nice, and closer to Zaragoza.

I can't resist mentioning two smallish cities I like that are practical day-trips from Madrid. Toledo is of course #1, but Segovia and Cuenca are also possible. I liked both of them more than Zaragoza. Cuenca is viable only via the AVE train, and the prices of those tickets escalate rapidly after initially going on sale at bargain prices, so it's not economically smart as a last-minute trip.

Not in the same category as Segovia and Cuenca but also nice is the handsome old university town of Alcala de Henares, reachable by local train from Madrid.

One interesting (to me) point is that Cuenca and the aforementioned Teruel are rather close together. Alas, it seems there's only one bus a day on that route, which would make me nervous. And the bus takes 3 hours, so this would work better with a rental car.

I haven't seen Tarragona; my impression is that the Roman ruins are the main reason to go. I love Girona and think it's the sort of place that would appeal to you. It's worth visiting just for the large medieval district, but it has a number of good sights: a walkable wall, two cathedrals and a fine museum. Totally worth an overnight or two though there's fast train service from Barcelona. I preferred Girona to Zaragoza.

This Camino-de-Santiago-related website has a thread discussing bus service to San Juan de la Peña. I didn't follow the links, but it appears that any service may run only in high season. Having run afoul of a similar situation last year when I tried to visit the Picos de Europa, I suggest you not try this. You might go to Jaca for nought.

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I think you are unnecessarily trying to complicate things. You will actually see more by keeping it simple.

April
11. Arrive Madrid (4N)
12. Madrid sights - Royal Palace, Prado
13. Toledo day trip
14. Segovia day trip
15. Early train to Zaragoza (1N)
16. Late train to Barcelona (4N)
17. Barcelona sights
18. Barcelona sights
19. Girona/Tarragona day trip
20. Depart Barcelona

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That's an awesome itinerary! I quickly realized after going through the guide books that I could spend months in Spain. I'm planning to do another trip for a few weeks in Andalucia perhaps next year. Thanks for the advice all and especially the last one for making things simple!

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Make sure you getup the wonderful traditional tapas bar in Zaragoza - Los Victorinos. Enjoy.