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Bus vs train travel

Planning a three or four week visit to Spain next May. Could even be a little longer as plans are still tentative. Current planned itinerary (which could change):
Arrive Barcelona > Valencia > Granada > Ronda > Cadiz > Seville > Toledo > Salamanca > San Sebastian > Pamplona > Madrid > fly home.

There are three of us, ages mid 70's to late 80's and we would really like to rent a car and see the countryside, but, because of our ages, car rental is too expensive. What is the best travel option for a trip like this - bus or train - keeping in mind our ages and that we really want as scenic a trip as possible? Also, is one better for travelers with mobility issues? Two of us use canes.

Also, whether bus or train, would it be better to buy individual tickets or try to find some type of discount? I have seen some mention of discounted trip tickets - - 8-10-12 trip passes and even "unlimited" travel passes for a 30 day period. Are those discounts really valid?

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Can the three of you climb steep stairs when getting on a bus? Do you pack heavy? If so, bus travel is easier because you stow your luggage before getting on. Train travel tends to be more comfortable than taking the bus though.

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For most of the places on your list a rental car would be a liability. A rental car is handy when visiting smaller towns and villages not well served by public transportation. None of the places you list fit that category.

I’ve never been asked my age when renting a car, anywhere. Since I always rent a vehicle I cannot comment on which (bus, train) is better or easier to use.

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We prefer train over busses and driving - that does limit where we go but we’ve also been able to visit smaller towns via train.. You may consider looking into private drivers and day tours. Since you’re a group of three hiring a private driver maybe a nice way to have the benefits of driving with none of the hassle. Perhaps someone on this forum can suggest reliable operators. Your hotels may have suggestions as well.

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Have a look at the cost of Hertz rental - they do not have upper age limits and price hikes.

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Arrive Barcelona > Valencia > Granada > Ronda > Cadiz > Seville > Toledo > Salamanca > San Sebastian > Pamplona > Madrid > fly home.

Three or four weeks plus travel point-point makes this aggressive for my former 20 year old self, let alone my 56 year old present self. That's a lot (to me) to see and do with a car let alone with trains or buses. By car, 3,000+ km and over 30 hours of driving assuming no traffic and easy parking. A Cannonball Run of Spain!

After managing the original itinerary, I would definitely choose train where possible (much more relaxing), but if you can swing a car, I'd definitely would think that would give you a lot more flexibility to get out and see the countryside and small towns (and stretch, stroll, get a break from the car).

Try the Hertz route like noted above, but also consider bringing a fourth with you - child, grandchild, niece, nephew, etc - to do the driving.

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That seems like too many places in 3--4 weeks, but that's your choice. Re discounts: there is a senior Pass (Tarjeta Dorada) that you can purchase to get discounts on Renfe trains. The problem is that you have to purchase the card in Spain and it's probably cheaper to buy your tickets in advance online. It would also be awful to not have certain tickets available if you wait to purchase while in Spain. We traveled by train Barcelona to Seville, took a bus Seville to Granada (times and fare were better than train), trains to Cordoba and Madrid. We took a bus for a day trip to Segovia. The travel was super easy and comfortable. As someone else pointed out, a bus is sometimes easier because you just wheel your big suitcase to the bus. Trains are a bit more comfortable but I don't mind a bus for 3 hours.

If you really want to see the countryside, there are many day tours available so you don't have to drive.

There might be porters at bus and train stations that help for a tip? I didn't notice but maybe someone else can comment.

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Thanks to all who responded. It appears that trains are the way to travel when available. Thanks.

I am a bit perplexed by the number who consider 10 stops to be too aggressive. I know I state 3-4 weeks of travel but am now thinking 4 weeks will be better. Also considering eliminating at least two stops - Cadiz and Rhonda - and doing possible day trips from Seville.
Right here on the Rick Steves website there is a recommended 3 week Spain trip that includes even more stops than I am planning.
https://www.ricksteves.com/europe/spain/itinerary

One month for 10 stops allows for an average of three day per stop. Seems reasonable to me, especially since 3-4 of those will actually be for only 1 day - - allowing 3-4-5 days for major stops such as Madrid.

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On our May trip we visited 11 smaller cities/towns in three weeks. Most of the stay’s were for 2-3 nights with a couple one night stays thrown in. We had a rental car so didn’t need to depend on train or bus schedules. Additionally, we had already been to some of the places on previous trips, so didn’t need to stay as long as we otherwise would have had to, if it was our first time there.

On our 2024 trip we also stayed in 11 smaller cities/towns over three weeks. On that trip we also had a rental car and most stays were for two nights.

To determine how long to stay in a place, identify what you want to see in each and how long you think it will take to see each site. Invariably you spend more time at some sites and less at others.

As long as the transportation schedules work for you, you should be able to visit the places you want.

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I almost got a 30-day bus pass for 60 euros but it seems like you need a Spanish ID to buy online--maybe they would have taken my passport number instead. I've checked rome2rio website. for all my routes which tells me which is better--bus or train since schedules and prices vary.