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3 Weeks in Spain - itinerary & mode

My wife and I (55 y/o) want to spend 3 weeks in Spain in April/May '18 to avoid the summer heat and crowds. Our proposed itinerary starts with 5 days in Barcelona, then 4 days in Madrid/Toledo, followed by 6 days in Seville/Ronda/Nerja/Granada, with a return to Barcelona. The remaining 5 days are up for grabs for day trips from our bases of Barcelona, Madrid and Seville. Any recommendations?

We are also wondering if it makes more sense to rent a car for 3 weeks, or use trains to get from place to place. We pack lightly, so we would only need a small economy or compact car. Cost should be around $500 for the 3 weeks.

Also, we are intentionally avoiding NW Spain as we've been there (San Sebastian, Bilbao) in the past. And Lisbon is an enticing potential addition to the itinerary, but we think it may take more time to get there and tougher to get back to Barcelona for our return flight.

Would appreciate hearing your thoughts. Thank you. Scott

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I agree with spending the time in Spain. There is much to see in Portugal, and the ground-transportation links can be challenging.

I like Ronda a lot, but I'll leave Andalucía to others since I haven't been there recently.

I also can't really address the car-vs.-train question since I've never rented in Europe, but I think a good bit depends on your ultimate target list of bases and day trips. Keep in mind that you can get from Barcelona to Madrid considerably faster by train than by car, and with no parking issues to think about. Ditto for the Madrid-to-Seville relocation. And if you plan to make sightseeing stops along the drive from one hotel to the next, you must be very careful to keep all your belongings hidden in the trunk. I have found the countryside around Madrid generally pretty dull.

With the caveat that I am almost exclusively a May-to-September traveler and can't speak to how lively these places might be in April...

Possible side trips from Barcelona (though 5 days is short just for the city itself):
- Girona: Worth at least a full day, plus it's a good base for Figueres, Cadaques and Besalu; has a large, atmospheric historic center, two interesting cathedrals, a walkable wall and a quite good art museum. Seriously, consider it as a possible base.
- Montserrat: Check other sources; I didn't have time for it. Also consider weather since it's up high.
- Figueres: Dali Theatre and Museum
- Cadaques: lovely white town with dripping bougainvillea (well, in the summer anyway). Dali House is in a nearby village, walkable.
- Besalu: small medieval village with a fortified bridge. A quick-visit sort of place that might be utterly dead in April (or not).
- Sitges: artsy beach town with at least one good museum. South of Barcelona.
- I could say positive things about Puigcerda and the surrounding area, but that's up toward the Pyrenees and I think not a great idea so early in the year.

Possible side trips from Madrid (after Toledo, my #1):
- Segovia: aqueduct, plus other sights. I found the architecture interesting and just wandered.
- Cuenca: shortish trip by AVE that will be affordable if you buy the train tickets when the initially go on sale; otherwise too expensive, and regular trains are far too slow. Lots to do here: medieval hill town with two good modern-art museums (over 1 hour each for me), a cathedral and hanging houses along a ravine. See it before the other American tourists discover it.
- Salamanca: handsome university city. Large historic area.
- Avila: To me it's just another wall and imminently skippable.
- Alcala de Henares: another university town with a very pretty historic district. Visually, I thought it was more attractive than Salamanca, but that's a matter of taste.

For your free time (assuming you don't just alot it to Madrid and Barcelona--that would not be a mistake): East of Cuenca are a couple of interesting places, only one of which I've managed to visit. With a car, they could be combined with Cuenca. Teruel is one of Spain's most isolated provincial capitals. It's known for its Mudejar architecture. Quite non-touristy given its attractiveness. With public transportation I think the best connection is by train south from Zaragoza (also interesting). Teruel is at altitude so could be chilly as well as windy in April. The small town of Albarracin has been on my radar for ages, but I don't think it has any public transportation.

Alternatively, there's more than a day's worth of good sights in Toledo, so you could spend two or three nights there. I stayed 3 nights and was happy with that decision.

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Hello!
You mention: "6 days in Seville/Ronda/Nerja/Granada."
That is a lot of towns for 6 days. We visited those same towns in September. By car, we did 2N Granada, 2N Nerja, 1N Ronda, and 2N Seville. We loved our time there, but were a bit rushed. Maybe consider adding some of your remaining five days to a couple of those towns. Probably Seville and Granada at least.
It sounds like a great trip, have fun planning!

Edit to add: For travel mode, we only rented the car from Granada to Nerja to Ronda and dropped the car off when we got to Seville. It was very easy to get from town to town by train. Parking can be difficult, and gas is expensive, so I really liked traveling by train as much as we could.

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If you are wedded to return flights in/out Barcelona, and have 20 nights all up, then this would make sense to me ...

  1. ARRIVE Barcelona (5N)
  2. Barcelona
  3. Barcelona
  4. Barcelona
  5. Barcelona
  6. Fly to Granada (3N)
  7. Visit Alhambra
  8. (Pick up car) Day to Nerja
  9. Drive to Ronda (2N)
  10. Day to pueblos blancos
  11. Drive via Arcos de la Frontera to Seville (4N) (Return car)
  12. Seville
  13. Day to Cordoba (Mezquita)
  14. Seville
  15. Train to Madrid (5N)
  16. Madrid
  17. Day to Toledo
  18. Madrid
  19. Day to Segovia
  20. Train to Barcelona (1N)
  21. DEPART Barcelona
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650 posts

My husband and I are planning three weeks in Spain at about the same time as you.. But because have a week in Barcelona in late January, we are skipping Barcelona in April. We will have three weeks in Toledo, Madrid, Seville, Cordoba, Ronda, and Grenada, That still feels fast to us.
You are planning way too many cities to see much of anything but buses trains. Spend more time per city and see fewer destinations. You will have more fun.

Slip a couple places. You will have more fun

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7810 posts

Hi Scott,

We traveled to Spain for the first time in Sept/Oct for a 3-week trip and had a wonderful time! I'll share our itinerary - similar locations, but we didn't go to Barcelona. You might want to fly into one airport and out another to save a day's travel. We didn't rent a car and were happy with that decision. Most of the locations we wouldn't have wanted to hassle with a car. Each of the locations listed below that are 2 or more nights need at least 2 - don't rush through these wonderful locations. Enjoy your trip!

Flew to Madrid & immediately went to Toledo - 2 nights (train)
Madrid - 3 nights (train)
Cordoba - 1 night (train)
Seville - 4 nights (bus)
Ronda - 2 nights (train & train ticket includes partial bus)
Granada - 3 nights (bus)
Nerja - 4 nights (spent one day enjoying the charming village of Frigiliana) (bus)
Malaga - 1 night
Fly home.

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15788 posts

As usual, David has come up with a very good itinerary. The only change I would make is to spend 1-2 nights in Toledo instead of day-tripping.

Posted by
28 posts

Thank you all for the wonderful suggestions. We will be taking your itineraries and recommendations into consideration as we build our itinerary. Thanks again all!

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7160 posts

I always rent a car when in Spain, but you don’t need a car in the large cities. The only part of your trip requiring a rental would be the Sevilla, Ronda, etc. part. You can take day trips from Madrid and Barcelona using public transportation.

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Do not rent a car for the whole stay. it will cost pretty a lot more to park in Madrid and Barcelona! Free parking is normally on the streets only for the weekends in some areas.