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Short Scotland Trip Advice

Hello!

I am looking for advice on a short trip to Scotland with my brother. We are both in our mid 30s, enjoy history, museums, eating, drinking, etc.

My brother will be meeting me (I’ll be coming from Dublin) flying to Edinburgh from the East Coast, arriving on Friday July 22, departing back to the East Coast from Edinburgh on Wednesday July 27.

While this is a short trip, it is all that he is able to do for personal reasons and I am looking to maximize our time. This will be our first time in Scotland, my brother’s first time in Europe.

July 22, Arrive Edinburgh 10:45 AM, train to Glasgow
Spend night in Glasgow
Evening of July 23, train to St. Andrews
Spend night in St. Andrews
Evening of July 24 train to Edinburgh
Spend 2 nights in Edinburgh
July 25 Edinburgh
July 26 Edinburgh
July 27 brother departs for USA
July 28
July 29 I return to Dublin

I’d love any feedback on the itinerary above, as well as suggestions on what might make sense for me to do after my brother leaves from 7/27 to 7/29. I was going to follow the advice in the RS Scotland book, though I see he recommends Sterling over St. Andrews. We were planning on taking the train between cities, and are open to renting a car if needed to see things away from the cities. I have not booked my flights yet and was considering departing back to Dublin from London.

Thanks for your help!

Posted by
2320 posts

It seems a very disjointed itinerary with a lot of back tracking and I don’t really understand the sequence.

If arriving in Edinburgh why not head out to St Andrews first (either train to Leuchars and then bus or bus to St Andrews from Edinburgh). I MUCH prefer St Andrew’s to Stirling (despite what RS may say). You can always do Stirling as a day trip from Edinburgh.

Then head back to Edinburgh for the rest of the stay. I would do Glasgow as a day trip from Edinburgh as that saves 1 night unpacking and repacking. On a short holiday it’s best to keep the number of overnight stops to a minimum.

Do check you can book accommodation as July is peak holiday time and many places may be fully booked already.

One thing you do need to bear in mind that rail services have been disrupted by strikes so you may need a contingency plan. You can check on disruption using this website.

https://www.scotrail.co.uk/plan-your-journey/check-your-journey

A car is not needed in Edinburgh which has a very good bus service. You may find accommodation doesn’t have parking.

Posted by
103 posts

As mentioned there's a lot of zigzagging about.

I'd agree that it makes more sense to head to St Andrews first. You take the tram (or a cab) to Edinbirgh Gateway stn and then there is an hourly train to Leuchars. You get off there and catch a bus or taxi to St Andrews.

Your brother will surely be jetlagged on July 22 and you wouldn't get to St Andrews till about 1pm, so you might not see that much that day. It depends what you want to see in St Andrews - If it's just the town itself a full day is plenty, but if you want to see something else in the area (i.e. the E Neuk fishing villages) then you'll need half a day or so longer, particularity if using public transport. Personally I think St Andrews is much nicer than Stirling, but I'm biased;)

If you're still set on going to Glasgow first - I presume you're arriving at EDI airport - then the airlink bus is the way to travel as it departs from the airport forecourt. The train does not serve the airport. That said, Glasgow has a perfectly good airport, so if you're heading there first then I'd fly there instead of EDI. There are are 6 or 7 flights per day to Glasgow from Dublin.

You can travel from St Andrews to Glasgow - 99 bus to Dundee rail stn (30mins) and then train from Dundee to Glasgow Queen Street (90mins). There is a direct bus from St Andrews to Glasgow (X24), but its slow and takes longer than the the bus/train combo via Dundee. Alternatively, you could head back to Edinburgh and spend time in Edinburgh and then go to Glasgow nearer the end of your trip.

It is certainly possible to visit Glasgow as a day trip from Edinburgh, the train service is very comprehensive, with a journey time of about 50mins and trains run late into the evening. However, bear in mind that Glasgow is more than twice the size of Edinburgh and many of the best known attractions are not in the city centre and spread out across other neighbourhoods - for instance the Kelvingrove and Riverside Museums are in the West End (although different parts!) and the Burrell Collection is in the Southside. So you need to build in time to get between these attractions by public transport as well as actually see them. As such, if you just want to see one or two very specific things a day trip is probably OK, but if you want to see or do more in terms of museums, food, drink etc, then you'll definitely need a good bit more time than a day trip provides.

Stirling can be visited as a day trip (or even 1/2 day) from either Edinburgh or Glasgow, its about half an hour by train from either.

It's noticeable your visit is focused on the "central belt" and doesn't include any time in the Highlands or islands. If you want to concentrate on cities/towns then go for it, but the Highlands are many people's highlight of Scotland. Edinburgh is not particularly close to the Highlands, although the geography of Scotland (Highlands extend much further south in the West) means Glasgow is somewhat closer to Highland scenery and has more public transport links to the W Highlands. There are companies like Rabbies and Discover Scotland who offer day (or multi day) tours from both cities. Simple day train trips into the Highlands would be Loch Lomond or the scenic W Highland line from Glasgow (although it's a long way to do up and back in one day!) or Pitlochry and Dunkeld from either city (although you're maybe a bit limited with no car once there). I guess you could do something like this with your spare days?

If you're going with St Andrews, Stirling, Edinburgh, Glasgow then you don't need a car (indeed you probably don't want one in the latter two!). If you want to get our into more rural areas then it's generally better to have one.

There is the currently industrial a ruin disrupting train schedules here. The seems to be hope it might be sorted soon, but who knows! There are plenty buses though - and they're often cheaper than trains - but slower!

Posted by
22 posts

Thanks waslays and outshined78 for the good advice. My apologies for taking too long to acknowledge the replies.

I took the advice about Stirling and we will arrange a tour of St. Andrew's using Rabbies. Good points about Glasgow. I wish my brother was able/willing to stay longer.

I will have Wednesday and Thursday to do as I please, and was considering a day trip by Rabbies or one of the other operators to make the most of my time before I return to Dublin either Thursday night or Friday morning. I am considering taking your advice and returning to Glasgow for a night so I can dive a bit deeper into the city after having a taste on a day trip.

Thanks again for the advice. I sincerely appreciate it. This forum has given me some amazing experiences and insight into travel.

Posted by
4624 posts

Is there something in particular that you want to see in Glasgow? It's not a city that would do well as a day trip. As mentioned above, the attractions are very spread out. We spent 4 days there in June and loved it, but in and out the same day wouldn't do it for me as it doesn't have a tourist zone like Edinburgh. I loooved Stirling Castle and would consider it as a daytrip over Glasgow.