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Sintra - Not What I Expected

I have seen videos of travels to Sintra and read reports. A number of people mentioned it was a fun hike up to the castles/palaces. We rode the train from Sete Rios station until the end, and just assumed we could walk around and walk up. It was way different than expected.

We ended up hiring a guide - which I am very hesitant to do = but this worked out well. There was a winding drive up to the old city, and then the castles. Most of the roads were narrow one way roads without sidewalks. There was a lot of traffic from all the tourist guides in cars, tuktuk's, jeeps, and even intercity buses. Pedestrians walked along the side - not even on sidewalks - just on the should have the road or in a gutter of sorts most of the time, with a bus a foot away. I can't imagine trying to hike that.

There are the two famous places - the Pena Palace (Yellow/Orange) and the stone slightly crude Moorish castle. But there are several others too. And it seems all of them require you to buy tickets to enter. And those tickets should probably be bought in advance. In particular the Pena Palace and the Quinta da Regaleira had crowds of people near their front gate with people swarming into the road way. It was kind of nuts.

The old city with the Lord Byron cafe is a nice hilly medieval design which is cute, albeit super touristed up, and so crowded you can't get a good picture of anything.

We ended up just seeing the palaces from various vantage points without entering. And even that was somewhat tiring and stressful. We enjoyed a trip out of Sintra down to several seaside resort areas and had some great fish dishes at a scenic spot. Overall we were happy but Sintra itself was not very enjoyable at all - think Venice crowds on narrow traffic lined hilly roads. A lot of time sitting in traffic. Apparently there is not off season to this area either. I wouldn't go back. But you could buy tickets in advance, and then take an unber up the hill perhaps.

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I have long imagined that as soon as there are cheap enough time machines I will go back to 15th century Rome and ask them why they made the sidewalks so narrow on the Corso and didn't do a better traffic engineering design to keep the cars and buses away from pedestrians.

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Well the Romans didn’t have buses - neither in their flat grid city plans much less in curvy hill roads. Cities could build elevated walkways with some of that sweet tourist money. They could restrict large vehicles on narrow mountain roads. They could have a guard gate and charge a few euros to cut down traffic jams. I think those solutions are preferable to having a few pensioners killled or maimed periodically.

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Your description is why I and a lot of my friends from this area don’t go to Sintra any more. I’m fortunate to have visited 9 years ago when it was very nice but it’s just not worth it any more.

Portugal is a bit late to the over touristed scene. The Sintra residents are only just now starting to make noises about how negatively their lives are impacted. I’m guessing either the tourist hordes will die down a bit, or you will read about efforts ( like other overcrowded European destinations) to decrease the number of tourists.

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Apparently there is not off season to this area either.

There is definitely an off season, but it’s not September when you were there. I was there this past March and really enjoyed Sintra.

I spent 2 days in Sintra. The first was a day tour with Lisbon riders.

https://lisbonriders.com/group-tours/sintra-cascais/

The second day I took the train to return to see Quinta da Regaleira. Other than the train, it was not crowded at all. I have found that before Easter is a nice time to travel without the crowds.

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I hiked up to Pena and Moorish, but not along the roads. I took a trail starting around the Igreja de Santa Maria. I was the only one on the trail until just before the castle. I walked back down a different trail, which took me into the center of town. I did pass several people on that trail. I walked along the streets several times between where I was staying and the town center. That was somewhat stressful when there was no sidewalk. I personally loved Sintra and plan to stay several nights again on my next visit so I can explore the Pena Park and the grounds of the Monserrate Palace further and spend more time walking along the coast, where the trail views are simply amazing.

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We visited Sintra in November several years ago. We loved it. Not crowded at that time of year. We only visited the lower palace of Sintra. Did not hike up to Pena Palace. We hired a taxi to take us to the old Cork Monastery outside of town. It was a highlight of our day there and would highly recommend. Beautiful grounds and interesting to visit. We took a bus down to Cascais from Sintra and had a lovely dinner there before taking the train back to Lisbon.

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We’re in Sintra right now, and having a pretty good time. After reading a lot of the postings, I knew we should get tickets. We got tickets to the National Palace (not timed) and to Quinta (timed) for today. We walked up to both places, and I wouldn’t have characterized either hike as nice, but 5 days in the Alfama had prepped us. There was a lot of people at the palace, but it it was big enough that it only felt crowded in a few of the rooms. The line for Quinta was a little shocking, but with timed tickets, the wait wasn’t long. You could only see a few rooms, so those were packed, but in the massive park grounds, there was ample room to explore and see the follies. It started to rain while in the gardens, and although I hadn’t planned to see the Initiation Well, it ended up being one of my favorite parts, only partially because it was a way to get out of the rain. The spiral staircase, the tunnels, the waterfall, was more fun than expected. Lots of people, but it was easy to move around. Truly, it wasn’t any worse than the Smithsonian museums during a DC summer.
Even the rain wasn’t terrible. It wasn’t cold, and we had dry clothes and a hot shower at our hotel. Tomorrow we’ll have our raincoats and plan to check out Peña Palace grounds, the Moorish castle and Monserrate.