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Fly or train between AMS and London

So doing a little trip recon for next Apr.

So I somehow thought the train from London to AMS was rather fast (like, I thought about 3 hrs - not sure where I got that idea!), but see it's almost 5 hrs with a change.

There are lots of non-stop flights of course from AMS to LHR and LGW. Flights are a little over an hour and of course we'd have to arrive 2 hrs early at the airport (and who knows how long to get thru passport upon landing - we've had it take 15 min and have had it take almost an hour). The folks we stay with in London aren't too hard to get to from LHR - we can take a taxi in about 20 min (at a cost of 20 GPB) or take the tube to a certain stop then get a taxi. (They're in Chiswick). It would be a little harder/longer of course to get there from St Pancras (and we'd have to pay to store our bags since we wouldn't going to Chiswick first then back into the city and at about 7GPB each bag - 4 bags would cost about $60 Canadian for us to leave - ouch).

Price is not a whole lot different - just doing a quick check, if we got the train tix way ahead about $85 Canadian, plane tickets are about $100 into LHR...and that's looking at next Apr, so I imagine we could get tix with BA for about the same as the train tix.

Is there a huge benefit to taking the train over plane? I know you don't have to go thru security and crap like you do at an airport and of course aren't limited by pieces of luggage. But we only take a carry on and personal size, which is fine with Brit Air or KLM. I'm leaning more towards plane, just because it'd be easier to get to our friends home.

Posted by
2501 posts

if you're considering flying them look at flights out of London City airport - much smaller than LHR or LGW and quicker to transit

Posted by
2622 posts

Well, my two cents is that I'd usually take the train over a plane but then I hate flying. Five hours on a train (it looks like 2 two hour legs to the journey) beats a one hour flight for me, given all the flying security etc. Your big dilemma is the bag storage cost, I guess, which I'd probably just cough up to avoid a flight.

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5326 posts

"I know you don't have to go thru security and crap like you do at an airport ."

But for Eurostar you do, although there is slightly less crap. You do get the advantage of doing your immigration in London though. Recommended time to get there is now 1 hour before.

At London City Airport you can complete check in as little as 20 minutes before the departure time although that seems a bit tight for me - although a bit of a way from Chiswick though.

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32694 posts

the question spoke about London to Amsterdam, and then changed to Amsterdam to London, which I think is actually the way the trip is going.

Three other things to add into the mix:= Once you reach Amsterdam Centraal you can just get onto the Thalys to Brussels (train continues to Paris) whereas if going to AMS Schiphol you have a short train journey (or number 300 bus from Haarlem - depending on where your last night is) and then a bit of a walk through quite a large airport before your check-in can begin.

Second, while you change trains in Brussel Zuid (Bruxelles Midi) you can visit a fair number of chocolate shops, right in the station. That's Belgian chocolate. And after you have checked in for the Eurostar there are additional opportunities while waiting for your train to be called.

Third, you have security and Border Control before you leave Brussels. When you get to London you just walk down the ramps through Customs (invisible to most) and out the frosted doors. No immigration queues like you will have at the arrival airport, and no waiting for luggage.

I actually think it is closer to a tie, or advantage Train.

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16893 posts

[Edited] The Eurostar train runs from London directly to Paris or Brussels in about 2.5 hours, which is faster than a flight plus airport connections. But Amsterdam is further and takes closer to 5 or 6 hours by train so I also lean toward flying this route. It looks like EasyJet doesn't have their April tickets for sale yet, but in March, they start at $42 USD from Amsterdam to Gatwick, Luton, Stansted, or Southend airports (unfortunately, not Heathrow). The 18-minute train ride between Amsterdam Centraal station and Schiphol is about the easiest airport connection one could dream of.

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3940 posts

We will be going to Belgium at some point on this trip. No worries about waiting for bags at the airport since we won't be checking any.

I'm still trying to figure out direction of travel. We may fly into Paris (we don't want to fly home from cdg because...well, the horror of flying out of cdg), go to Belgium/NL then fly home from London (hubby wants to go to London because he likes it and is one of the few places with direct flights to Halifax). I tried saying...lets fly into Paris and home from Brussels, but he wants London in there.

Or we may fly into London, and fly home from Brussels (skipping Paris because we have already been there three times and I wanted to concentrate more on Netherlands ( NL ) and Bel on this trip). This is the most likely scenario. In this case, we'd prob do London, then fly or train to AMS then to Belgium. I know, I know...it messes up the travel flow.

Or we may fly round trip London. (Least likely, but at least we have direct flights and don't have to fly past ns to Montreal then back to ns to get home)

We use air miles, and need to utilize more air miles to fly to or from AMS than from Brussels. I'd have to scrape up another 600-700 miles to fly home from AMS, which is why I'd fly home from
BRU instead of Amsterdam, because I still have to get another 1200 miles by April, which is doable, but I don't think I can get 1900.

So we are looking at fly into Paris...Belgium....nl...fly home fr London.

Or...fly into London...nl..fly home fr Belgium.

Or...round trip London.

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5326 posts

Oh yes I see the OP refers to London to Amsterdam ... and then refers to Amsterdam to London. I'll admit I read the original message several times earlier trying to understand it and going back again the actual needs still less than clear to me. The second one above has sorted this out.

If going in the opposite direction you still have the security and immigration stuff to go through, just in Brussels though. I see Nigel rated it a tie and I would more or less too. If it were somewhere off the fast rail lines then air would probably win out.

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3940 posts

Basically, I just wondered if people would rather fly between the two or take the train.

I'm just very long winded.

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3940 posts

Yeah - after thinking it thru (and forgetting that you do indeed have to show up early for the trains as well - I should have rem that from taking the Eurostar from London to Paris) I am leaning more towards the flying. We've had good luck and relatively cheap tix with Brit Air before.

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I'm pondering next year's trip, Amsterdam is looking very definite and either Berlin or London as second cities and for either a short flight would be my choice. Just did that from Paris to Budapest--2 hours and out on the street in Budapest by 11 am, which is pretty close to my usual out of the hotel time anyway.

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Something I'm considering for next May...the overnight ferry from the Hook of Holland to England. Relatively inexpensive and a stateroom in place of a night of hotel. We'll fly into Paris, work our way through Belgium to Amsterdam then ferry to England then home from Heathrow.