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When Exactly are Hadrian's Villa and Villa D'Este Worth the Day Trip?

I absolutely love this board and how helpful people have been, but there is one thing I have noticed. When mentioning day trips outside of Rome, people will often say, "Well, if you only have (insert number here) days in Rome, you should just stay in Rome." So, I'm wondering when it is good to go to the villas in Tivoli (I will already be doing Ostia Antica later on)?

I will give a very specific example from my own itinerary. Once we have seen St Peter's, the Vatican Museum, the main branch of the National Museum of Rome (none of the three other branches), the Capitoline Museums, the Borghese Gallery, the Pantheon, the Colosseum, Palatine Hill, the Roman Forum, Trajan's Markets (from the road on that one), Santa Maria Maggiore, San Giovanni in Laterano, San Clemente, St. Peter in Chains, Santa Maria del Popolo, Santa Maria della Vittoria, the Capuchin Crypt, the Trevi Fountain, the Spanish Steps, Piazza Navona, Campo de Fiori, and we've done the Trastevere and night walk through Rome... Is it then time for a day trip to Tivoli? Or are the remaining sites in Rome worthy of keeping us there OVER the villas of Tivoli?

And finally, is it possible to do Villa D'Esta and Hadrian's Villa justice in a half day trip? Thanks.

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Sounds like a great trip Ben. But I am curious...how many days are you allotting for Rome? I know what you mean too, about the "Plan on returning" when you want so badly to do it all. Truth to tell, tho, we found that repeating this little motto does help to salve the angst when you feel like you're loafing because it's 8:00 AM and you're just in the shower. Happy travels.

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Ben, I just returned from Rome last Thursday. I spent 5 days there and did everything on your list except Capitoline Museum, Trastevere walk and the Capuchin Crypt. I must say I can do one more day just in Rome.

I don't know how many days you have planned on staying in Rome, but if it's less than 5, I would say it might be too rush to go to Tivoli. That's just my 2-cents.

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I can only speak to Hadrian's Villa, but it is definitely worth the trip by itself. Whenever we mention to our world traveling son that we have been to Villa Adriana and he hasn't, he gets green with envy! We are currently planning a return trip with family and that is one of the must sees. Getting out into the country would also be a nice change of pace. Enjoy!!

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Wow, Ben, you are good. We will be in Rome for the fifth time this September (total nearly 3 weeks) and we still haven't seen as much as you have. I guess we need to move faster. This trip will include Hadrian's villa for a day. From everything we have read and heard it is more than worth it. On the other, you cannot see too much of Rome.

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Frank, after what you said, I'm now terrified that I'm "overplanning". Thanks a lot. LOL. You see, I have been to Rome exactly zero times. This was what I thought I would cram into the first trip ha ha.

It seems to work on paper, at least. I've even done a little research at the Roma ATAC website and marked all the useful bus stops and bus routes on my maps, and I didn't forget to adjust the itinerary for buses that don't run on Sundays or have more limited schedules, etc.

I've calculated all of the distances between the sites and I'm using Rick's books to estimate the time spent at each one. If it gets down to the day of a possible trip away from Rome to Tivoli, if we haven't conquered Rome quite as efficiently as it looks on paper, then we'll just spend another full day in Rome.

Granted, for many people my plan would be a nightmare to begin with. You have probably enjoyed a lot of relaxing on the piazzas and people watching and what not. We won't get to do much of that except in the evenings, unfortunately.

I know Rick says to always expect to return, don't cram it all in. I can't take that advice because if I return, it will be MANY years from now and that is unacceptable to me. Ha ha.

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You don't say how long you're going to be there, but I figure you would need at least seven days to cram in all that you've mentioned, not including Tivoli.

I can't speak to Villa d'Este, but I have been to Hadrian's Villa and it's pretty amazing. It deserves a half day by itself. Because Tivoli is a bit of a hassle to get to (and back) I don't see any way you can cram both the sites into a half day.

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Sometimes it's just nice to get out of the city and a half day trip to Tivoli is just the thing. Villa D'Este is definitely worth the time if you have it. The villa itself is very lovely with an awesome view - the gardens and fountains are amazing. The town of Tivoli is quaint and a nice break from touring the city sights. Not having been to Hadrian's Villa, I can't say as to the time needed there but it would be worth looking into the possibility of visiting both in one day. It sounds like you have a lot of stamina!

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Hadrian's Villa is my suggestion. And that will take you all day. You can't do both Villa D'Esta and Hadrian's in one day and do either justice. The Villa D'Esta is so much later in History, and so minor, that it doesn't compare at all with Hadrian's Villa.

Not much is left of Hadrian's Villa. Its more of an archaeologically site than D'Esta. You need your imagination to see Hadrian's Villa as it all was. But once you then see it, the power of the Emperor of Rome becomes clear. Its not abstract any more as to the limits of their power. They truly were treated, and thought of, as Gods.

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Thanks for the help everyone. I suppose now I should ask if Tivoli's sites (including nearby Hadrian's Villa) are a better attraction than the Appian Way? We could do the Appian Way instead, if people think it is worthy? Of course, we would see one of the catacombs there and enjoy the other sites. Historically, it seems like a great adventure. My wife and I could rent a bike and have a picnic in one of the peaceful areas.

But is it more worthwhile than Villa D'Este and Hadrian's Villa? Or less so? Thanks.

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The best travel advice I ever received came from a Londoner who I met, in all places, at a Container Store in Fort Worth, Texas. He was telling me things we could see, etc, but his best advice was to just enjoy being there. Don't worry about trying to see everything -- just enjoy the day. So, I would say that if you are in Rome and you have a day where you want to go to Hadrian's Villa, do it. That is our plan. We will be in Rome for a week in July. I've been before, but it's been a long time.

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I went online and searched out pictures/video of Villa d'Este and Villa Adriana. That helped me make up my mind that I definitely wanted to take time away from Rome and go to Tivoli.

We were going to try and get to both Villa d'Este and Villa Adriana but ended up just getting "lost" in Villa d'Este. It was my 45th birthday and I just loved wandering the gardens and seeing all of the fountains. While I knew that I had to make sightseeing sacrifices in Rome to make Tivoli happen I don't regret going one bit.

We are headed back to Rome (for one month) next summer. I plan on going back to Villa d'Este and will definitely see Villa Adriana this time.

Have fun deciding if you will go!

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Any opinions on the Appian Way and catacombs vs Villa D'Este and Hadrian's Villa?

The Appian Way would require a far shorter journey by bus. Aside from that though, is the Appian Way as good of a "site" as the Tivoli villas? I thought my wife and I would have a picnic out there and then walk or bike along the road looking at all the sites and visiting the catacombs. Is that as worthwhile as a trip to Villa D'Este and Hadrian's Villa?

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Ben, I am currently in Napoli (have not felt uncomfortable in any way, watch still on arm, purse not under threat). I had 6 days in Rome earlier in the month and took a day to see Villa D'este and Villa Adrianna. In spring, the gardens at the former are absolutely stunning, and I spent hours just wandering and absorbing. I am so glad that I took the time. Adrianna is quite large and involves probably more time than I had, unfortunately.