Hi Angela, We negotiated a price 10E less, but as the previous poster said, it was away from the heavily touristed areas. We did not tip, but my husband did buy him a beer after. So however you look at it, we did pay the 80E, but for us, it was worth every penny. Aside from the price, I would recommend a gondolier away from the crowds, just so you aren't a part of the crowds. Once off the Grand Canal, we were the only ones on the back "roads". Also, we felt a little something was in order, as our gondolier, who was fantastic, appeared to be working, or perhaps training, with the a 2nd gondolier who appeared to be the owner of the 2 gondoliers at the stop. I know many here do not think the high price is worth it, but if you are lucky to get a good gondolier like we did, it really is worth it and I would do it again in a heartbeat. (btw you can bring your own bottle of wine with you:))