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Tuscany Rome Naples first trip help/suggestions

My wife and I want to plan a trip to Italy (first time outside USA) and it will have to be mid October 2020. Nothing is booked yet.

We thought of finding a tour because honestly we don’t know where to all go and ins/outs of booking everything and avoiding lines, and with 3 little kids, time to get fully detailed is going to be hard. However,
A) we will be limited to 9 nights (grandparents nervous watching kids back home)
B) most tours include Venice (no interest) or seemed so rushed from place to place and we want our time in places we want to see
C) don’t include Pompeii
D) get expensive, did I mention 3 little kids aka checkbook emptiers.

Help us plan an itenarary, at least suggestion where to fly in/out and #nights to stay. Would prefer more day trips than changing hotels.

Rome-high priority, see history, culture
Tuscany- see beauty of area, wine tours, museums of Florence, honestly wouldn’t mind staying in castle/farmhouse
Naples area-can we squeeze it in? Pompeii is must, but can we get more, oh if only we had more time!!

I know a lot, but is there a company who would help not with full tour trip, but help hotels, travel between destinations and setting up with some tours a few days? Or are we just over thinking the difficulty of planning?

Thanks for any help!

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Sorry but a bit confused. You don’t want a tour because they get expensive with 3 kids (checkbook emptiers) but the kids are staying with grandparents (maybe you meant the kids are just expensive overall thus trip funds are limited). A quick clarification would help. Are the kids going or are you just planning for 2 adults?

Easy answer is to split time between Florence and Rome. Day trips, wine trips, etc available out of each. Including a day trip to Pompeii out of Rome (yes rushed but your time is very small and desires very big). Fly in and out of Rome- this can also depend upon your US airport.

You are excluding Venice but claim an interest in history—Rome and Pompeii. Venice is history- you are stepping back in time strolling by 500 yr old buildings.... it was the gateway to the East and very much fits into the history of western civilization from the ancient world (Pompeii, Rome to the Renaissance of Florence. Your skipping a big chunk of historical development.

Where are you living- west coast, east etc ? Substantial impact with travel time and jet lag.

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As I understand it, you don't have a lot of planning time now because the little ones use up all your time :-)

Mid-October is a very good time for Italy, after the summer heat and crowds, still long days and summer hours for sights. Find the time for planning (maybe even ask the grandparents to babysit for a few hours each week. . . ) and you can save quite a bit compared to the cost of a tour.

With only 9 nights in Italy, you are wise to eliminate Venice (though it's almost my favorite city in the world). That leaves you 2 choices for flights, either round-trip Rome or open-jaw into Rome and home from Naples. Maybe you could even find flights into Florence and out of Naples. Just go with whatever is cheapest and the least plane changes. If you give us your home city, some of us may be able to give you more help on that.

Staying in a farmhouse is often difficult because of the lack of transportation. Renting a car will only add stress and expense. Florence is a fine place to stay, and you can arrange a tour. If you land in Rome, you can continue to Florence by train the same day. It's best to start your trip there since it's not a big city so it's easier to get over jetlag and soak up "being in Italy." 3nights gives you a full day for the museums and a full day for a wine tour. Add a night for a visit on your own to lovely Siena, or for more of Florence's gems.

After Florence you can go straight to Naples if you're flying out of Rome. If you take an early train to Naples and a late train out, even 1 night there will give you a few hours to see Naples, especially the National Archaeology Museum (allow at least 2 hours) when you arrive, and spend most of the next day in Pompeii. 2 nights is better. I can recommend a budget hotel very near the train station - not the most attractive part of the city, but very safe, and walking distance to the historic center and the top-rated pizzeria and bakeries.

Once you have your dates (presumably have booked your flights) and know how many nights you want in each place, you can buy deeply discounted train tickets. The sooner you do this the more you'll save. But don't panic yet! Train tickets are only on sale now till early June so you still have lots of time. The same goes for hotels, you can find more bargains if you book early. Many places still allow you to book with a credit card guarantee (no advance payment) and cancel without penalty until close to your arrival.

And of course, the Forum is here to give you suggestions and recommendations as you make your plans. Get copies of Rick Steves Italy Guidebook and Europe Through the Back Door. Try your public library - even if the books are several years old, they will be very helpful to get you started.

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9 nights- you've got time for 2 locations to meet your priorities. You have 8.5 days, one is jet lag.
Rome 5 nights, Florence 4- that's just minimum to scratch the surface. But a nice first trip.

Hopefully you will return to Italy and want to see Venice. You unfortunately don't have time for Venice now anyway.

Pompeii from Rome is a very long day trip, can be done but I think best done on a guided tour because of the distance/time//logistics. If high priority then budget for that.
I know Walks of Italy has one, there are others. That will be money well spent

What are your flight options? Where are you flying from? If possible fly in to one, out of another- open jaw- multi city.
In to Rome, out of Florence? Pick the best most direct route TO Italy. We prefer non stop-direct. We want to get there.
If the flight home has a change or delay- well- it will be OK. You already had your vacation, you'll get home.

If RT Rome is best option then head to Florence on arrival, put all Rome nights at end
Florence 4 nights-- 1-2 day trips DIY or a maybe just 1 day guided tour
Train back to Rome
Rome 5 nights-- day trip Pompeii.
Fly home Rome

It's not difficult to plan.
Get RS Italy book- so helpful, especially for first timer, lots of general travel info as well.

Search for flights on google flights - book with the airline
Search for lodging on booking.com
Search here for recommendations/links for tix, tours, train info, etc.

Ask.

Very easy to book it all yourself.
You have 9 nights/8.5 days. Keep it simple, you'll enjoy it more.

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I agree that if you don’t go to Venice (I’m terribly interested why it doesn’t interest you), then the best would be just Rome (5 nights) and Florence (4 nights), as the previous poster said,

I dislike the idea of deboarding and overnight flight and hopping on a train, so if you can get an open jaw flight, that would be the best...into Florence, out of Rome. I don’t think it’s that big of a deal to do Rome first, also. It might be nice to slow it down a pace in Florence at the end of a trip. So you could open jaw Rome - Florence. We are going to Florence for the first time in September and doing a lovely day trip to Tuscany, Siena, lunch at a Vineyard with Walks of Italy.

I would delete planning on spending the night in Naples, just do a group day tour to Pompeii from Rome one day.

Planning is not as hard as it seems the first time. Decide on the days and places, book your flights, then come back for hotel help, then trains and touring, misc, help.

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Yes, we have 3 kids, which day care is emptying our pockets. We're not poor but can't drop $12,000 + airfare for a trip.

Just my wife and I, coming from Minnesota (midwest of USA).

Grandparents on the other side of the country, so don't get them to come babysit so we can plan. I get 30 minutes here and there, but hard to get hours dedicated to research.

No interest in Venice, because 9 nights and seems so far from rome/tuscany that I feel like I would be spending too much time checking out of hotel, getting to yet another train station, transferring, ride to hotel, drop off baggage. Losing half a day and then looking at being in cities for 2-3 days, which seems too rushed. Ideally in the future there would be a 2nd trip that could include Venice and northern italy.

Dates are not solid, so open for a tour if could find one reasonable priced and go around, but again, don't want a large group tour and don't want 1 day here, 2 days here, 1 day there and spending half the trip committing, on a van/train... when we could be getting deeper into the cities.

Thank you so much for all the replies!