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Tuscany itinerary too much?

Hi,
I will be in the Tuscany/Umbria area in September and have (3) full days to explore. (With a day on either side for arrival and departure to Rome). I will have a car. Here are the things I am trying to do, but geographically I think I might need to edit and would love your advice:

*Staying in Castiglion Fiorentino/near Cortona

*Assisi ( approx 1 hour from our Airbnb)
*Val d'Orcia drive with wineries in Montepulciano and/or Montalcino/ cheese farm Famiglia Armellini
*Civita di Bagnoregio (1 1/2 hrs from our Airbnb)
*San Gimignano (1/2 hrs from our Airbnb)
So (4) areas in (3) days. Can I combine anything?
Trying to cover Hill Towns, Assisi, and wineries/farms overall. My eyes are crossed from trying to read maps and figure this out. Any advice is appreciated!
Thanks much,
Kathy S

Posted by
1926 posts

If you want scenic drives, stay off the main drags.

It will probably take over 2 hours to get to Civita, and that's using the ugly route (A1).

Half an hour to San Gimignano? At least 2 hours on a nice route.

Leave early, Spello and Assisi on the same day. Both worth it.

No experience with any countryside wineries or cheese farms. I'd definitely include Pienza with Montepulciano.

Abbazia di Monte Oliveto Maggiore is a great visit and a good place to eat. On the way, Lucignano is an interesting place. Cortona too, if not in your plans?

Posted by
2058 posts

You can do Montepulciano and C di B on the same day --- C di B is tiny. We did like visiting it, but not 3-hours-round trip worth. I wonder if you would enjoy Gubbio more --- people live there, good restaurants, and the birdcage lift to the top of the hill is fun. Not heavily touristed, either. An hour and 20 minutes from Castiglion Fiorentino, and, depending on what you want to see or do in Assisi, could be explored on the same day.

Remember that you shouldn't drink and drive in Italy the way people do in America. Also, there are lots of wineries much closer to where you are staying.

San Gimignano was hellishly crowded with tour groups when we did a day trip there in late September 2022. It was hard to see the charm. With a car, you can get to many towns in Tuscany and Umbria that most tourists can't. Like Gubbio. But people here can tell you their own favorite less-visited hill towns.

As for maps --- my family, friends, and colleagues tease me about how I combine my Google Maps with my needing a paper map to scribble on and draw arrows on. But I persist in putting the green flags on my Google map of an area, then printing it up several times so that I can write in town names much larger, circle places, travel times between towns, comments, questions, things to google on, etc.. It helps me think and decide about stuff. I make a clean final copy before we leave home and I do use it while traveling around Italy, even though we use Google Maps for actual navigating while driving.

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6622 posts

So smart to do that map prep Nancy! You never know when a road closure or something can happen, and then being familiar with routes and other towns you’ll pass through can save the day. I spend more time on Google Maps planning a trip as I do anything else.
Kathy I know you are exhausted now, but before September do play around with maps a bit, it can make a difference when you need to change things on the fly. I decide what I want to see, then adjust the itinerary so I’m not in the car more than i want to be, but my max may be lower than yours.

Posted by
2923 posts

hey hey Kathy S
with your short time in tuscany, september is harvest festival season with many town/villages enjoying weekends for "eat drink & be merry"
discoverytuscany.com
calendar of events in tuscany in september (scroll down to months & click september). hope you find some time to attend, they are so much fun. bring small denominations of cash euros. be very careful with wine tasting and driving, very strict unless you have a DD, have no clue about parking and if a taxi available. just keep a number with you. also it's mandatory to have and IDP (aaa.com/IDP) to drive in italy, get it before leaving the states.
we did a few around some towns, my favorite was in bardolino on lake garda (festa dell'uva). check with your host/hostess about wineries and can you visit on your own or need to make reservations?
we would buy the local wine, bread and salami/cheeses at festival and have happy hour at our apartment. it was fabulous.
go have a great time.
aloha

Posted by
3709 posts

To expand on what Gunderson said above . . . Many of the roads in Tuscany are mostly 2 lanes, narrow, and winding. It can easily take an hour to cover 25 miles.

I consider C d B a monumental waste of time, when you have so little. What about Siena or Pienza?

Posted by
15964 posts

Take into account that parking space is limited and parking lots are outside the town walls. Plan to be there very early to get place near the historic center. There may be more parking farther down the hill - a longer uphill climb. Montepulciano has 8 lots spread around he town walls. Note carefully how you walk from the lot into the town so you don't have a problem finding your way back. I parked in Lot 8, an easy walk up. Going back I followed the sign to Lots 7-8. Somehow I got to Lot 7 and it was nowhere near 8. After asking several drivers (those nice enough to stop) who had no clue where 8 was, a local pick-up truck stopped and told me to hop in. We drove for about a kilometer to Lot 8. Assisi has a large lot under the Basilica. I imagine it would fill up in September.

Be sure to have a gps app that you are used to. I used my Garmin and Google maps on my phone. More than once they gave me conflicting directions and more than once took me on unpaved back lanes.

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16722 posts

I don't have any advice but I agree with Rosalyn. Civita di Bagnoregio was one of the most disappointing places I've visited. It's deserted as they moved the locals out years ago due to the instability of the foundations and erosion of the rock. It is one of those places that, to me, looks cooler from a distance than it does up close. Unless you like stray cats and paying an exorbitant amount for...as my brother put it....a few tomatoes on a piece of toast (and we regularly have bruschetta at home) then include it. It's also one of those places that Rick loves that just boggles my mind.

Others, of course will have different opinions and you may still want to go even after you gather opinions from forum members. Your trip, your choices!

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439 posts

Two years ago, we stayed SE of Sienna and did day trips by car. Sounds like you.

We had a list
We saw way less than hoped for
But each day, we chose our priorities and went ..

Driving was VERY slow.

One morning, as we followed Google's directions, we went past a beautiful hill city we had never heard of, so we tried to find it on our return drive. We couldn't!
I thought we were on the same route, but ..

The roads aren't laid out like in Minnesota:-)