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Trenitalia vs. Italo question for Rome to Naples

Something is confusing me. I thought that Trenitalia and Italo used the same tracks and stations but completely different trains. When traveling from Florence to Rome a couple of years ago, we pre-booked the tickets on Italo and we were very pleased with everything. The train was very nice, not at all crowded. We'd been told that since its a private company, you've protected yourself against the risk of having your journey cancelled due to a national rail strike. When there is a national rail strike, the Trenitalia trains do not run but the Italo ones still do. Or at least that's what we were lead to believe.

So what's confusing me is that in checking schedules and prices for a date in April to go between Rome and Naples, both Trenitalia and Italo are showing a noon departure from Rome that arrives in Naples at 13:12. On both websites, it is indicated that the train is Frecciarossa #9519. On Trenitalia, it can be booked now for 24 Euro. On Italo, the price shows up in USD. It can be booked now for $29.

Are they the same train? If so, what considerations go into booking it on the Trenitalia website versus the Italo website? I think the latter is easier to use.

Posted by
32202 posts

Vickie,

Trenitalia and Italo are indeed different rail companies, but they do use the same tracks as they both require the same infrastructure to operate high speed trains. If you decide to use train #9519, I believe that's a FrecciaRossa which is the fastest type of the three high speed trains classes (up to 300 km/h).

I'm not sure why you weren't seeing solutions for the trips you want? I checked both the DBahn and Italo websites using an arbitrary date of 3 April, and there are numerous solutions shown, both on Freccia and Italo trains. As there's a schedule change later this month, perhaps not all the schedules for April have been uploaded yet.

I'd suggest using www.trainline.com to buy tickets, as they sell tickets for both major rail networks in Italy, as well as some of the smaller ones. That provides one stop shopping for whichever type of train you want to use.

Posted by
14994 posts

What website are you using?

I went to Italo's website and couldn't find that train (9519). (Italotreno.it/en)

I did find it on Trenitalia's website. It's a Trenitalia train.

They are separate companies and run separate trains.

Posted by
1528 posts

Trenitalia and Italo may have different strike dates, but who told you private companies do not go on strike?

Posted by
3812 posts

No Union has ever been able to stop Trenitalia's Frecce. The High Speed services are managed by a separate division with different labour policies for a reason. You were lead to think Italo's advertising to be 100% true, but it isn't: they have gone on strike 2 times in 10 years. Real strikes with no guaranteed trains.

I think you checked italiarail thinking it was Italotreno's site. Italiarail is an US based reseller licensed by Trenitalia that adds a small fee on top of official fares.
Their site Is easier to use because they only want you to buy tickets as soon as possible; Trenitalia wants you to understand what you are doing and how the system actually works in the real world.

Posted by
454 posts

Dario is right. I thought I was on Italo's official website but I was on Italiarail, the U.S. based reseller issuing Trenitalia tickets. And now I've looked at Italo's official website. We can book our date in April now for 24 Euro on Trenitalia or 9.90 Euro on Italo. That's quite a big price difference. I don't see any reason to choose Trenitalia over Italo. If anyone knows of one, I'd be happy to hear it.

Posted by
3112 posts

Note that Italo trains are much more popular now than they were even just a couple of years ago. My Italo train from Florence to Rome last week was very full, so don't expect "not at all crowded" these days.

Posted by
7297 posts

Vickie, you may already know this, but remember that discounted advance purchase rail tickets are usually like air tickets today: They are for a specific train only. If you miss it, or if you arrive early and want to take the preceding train, even by the same provider, you will have to pay the full walk-up fare for a new ticket.

Posted by
7837 posts

both are a just a one hour train ride with a seat assignment; you will not notice much