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Trains vs Flying

Hi,
My family will be vacationing in Itally in October for 15 days. We fly into Milan. My question is since we're a family of 5 ( 2 adults and 3 kids 7,9 and 12) what do suggest on flying vs trains. I would think you could find a group rail for families of 4 or more. Any suggestions or websites that could be of use?

Our Schedule :

Fly into Milan-

Train or Fly to Almafi Coast - 3days

3 days in Rome
1 day in Sienna
3 days in Tuscany
3 days in Rome

Head back to Milan

Should we try to squeeze in the Cinque Terre?

We might rent a car in Tuscany because I think you can cover more ground. Any thoughts or suggestion would be helpful!! Thanks

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Hi, is there any chance you could fly into Rome or Naples instead of Milan? Seems out of the way from where you want to visit? Even do open jaw and into Naples, (Amalfi Coast) then train to Rome and up to Sienna and Tuscany, then back to Rome to fly home.

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11192 posts

Are you locked into flying into and out of Milan?

If you have flexibility on your flights, you should do an 'open jaw' routing and start at one end of your trip and work your way to the other.

Are you really planning to make two 3 day stops in Rome?

If your Milan connection is fixed, I would suggest you do your northern section of Italy first, have AC at the end and then fly from Naples to Milan at the end.

With correct routing you could do 2 nights in CT, by reducing Rome from 6 to 4 nights

Posted by
40 posts

Our flights are already set. This is just a rough draft of our schedule. We can change this in order so things can work better. Just thinking with the long flight kids will be jet lagged!!

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I'm sorry I'm not doing 6 days in Rome only 3 days. Any suggestion on the added 3 days? I you can see CT in 2 days

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4434 posts

I would most definitely spread those extra three days between Tuscany and the Amalfi coast.
You should first compare train (trenitalia) to Naples or Salerno with flying from Milan to Naples (try skyscanner for low costcarriers, but note many have strict baggage weights).
Train from Naples or Salerno to Rome, then after your time there, you could train to Orvieto and pick up the car there for Tuscany, dropping it in Florence.

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11169 posts

Land at MXP. Fly to Naples and hire driver to take you to Amalfi Coast. Driver take you back to Naples train station, train to Rome. Rent car to travel to Tuscany( Siena is a small city in Tuscany). If you don't want to pick car up in Rome, get it at FCO(airport) which puts you eight on the Autostrada. Drive or train to Cinque Terre( Two days is enough. Check weather history as it may be rainy season there) Spend a night IN Milan. OR... With children, I would think Venice would be a better choice than the Cinque Terre or Amalfi Coast. Then it could be, following Tuscany, train from Florence to Venice. Train Venice to Milan. Or after arrivng Milan, train to Venice. Then transfer to MXP depending on time flight home leaves MXP. If early, stay near MXP. Add rime to Tuscany too.

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Is the Amalfi Coast a 'must'. ?

If not, you could do a fairly efficient loop to include Venice , CT, Rome and Tuscany.

If you want some 'inspiration' , look at the RS Best of Italy tour itinerary. Toss out the Dolomites and add in Venice to your schedule. This excludes the Amalfi Coast, but gives you CT in a more geographically friendly cluster

It would be easier for folks here to give specific suggestions if you identified the dates and time of your flights. 15 days is not necessarily the same thing as 15 nights.

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11337 posts

October is such a nice month in Italy! Bravo!

Arrive Milan and take a train immediately to the Cinque Terre town of your choice. This is a 3.5 hour trip, and I know you will be tired after flying, but you can nap on the train and start your trip in a relaxing spot. October can be very nice there. It is the only month we visit the area.

Cinque Terre - 3 nights

train to Rome - 4 nights (Seriously this city needs at least 3 full days so do not short change it)

train to Sorrento - 3 nights (Your Amalfi Coast base)

train to Orvieto and rent a car for your 4 nights in Tuscany. You can perhaps base at an agriturismo near Siena and avoid a one night stay.

drop the car and take a train to Milan for the last night.

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40 posts

Laura,

Thank you for the detail intenirary!! What's your thoughts on adding Venice?

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4105 posts

Aaron, here is my reply from your other post.

Posted by gerri
lexington, il
06/17/17 02:45 PM
1441 posts
My thoughts are that you're already at the airport. Easyjet has 4-5 flights a day from MXP-NAP. Surely one would fit your schedule. Even if you sit at MXP for a few hours it's better then the train. Very reliable, but check baggage allowances carefully. Flight is 1hr 25min.
Then from NAP take the Curreri Viaggi bus to Sorrento.
75 min. 10 euro.
While Sorrento is not the AC, it is by far the best transportation hub. Consider adding a day here if you get in late.
From here to Rome by Circumvesuvian (67 min. )Then train (Trenitali) Napoli Centrale-Roma Termini 70 min.
From Rome, head to Orvieto.
1H17m. Spend 1 or 2 nights.
Several towns you can hit by regional trains. Then head to
Venice.
Not using a car this trip will allow you more time to interact with the girls.
Train from Malapensa to Sorrento is over 7 hrs.

Fastest train from MXP to Monterosso is 4H15m.

Edit: family offers from Trenitalia.

http://www.trenitalia.com/tcom-en/Offers/Bimbi-Gratis

Laurels' itinerary is good, but you have to decide on either CT or Venice. You don't have time for both.

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I second the suggested Itinerary that Laurel posted as that's the most efficient option and the best use of your time. It's also probably a good idea to visit the Cinque Terre early in the trip, as the weather could become more unpredictable as October progresses. When is this trip taking place? Also what time does your flight arrive in Milan?

For your stay in the Cinque Terre, you'll first have to determine which of the five towns you want to stay in. Everyone here has a favourite and my preference is Monterosso. It's the largest of the five and therefore has the most hotels, restaurants and other amenities, as well as the best beaches. I'd hightly recommend that you get rooms booked as soon as possible, as that area is still very popular in October.

Once you've settled on a final Itinerary, it will be easier to provide more specific transportation suggestions. It's important to note that both rental cars and trains have some potentially expensive caveats, so you'll need to be familiar with these before arriving in Italy.

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I did some research for you. There are only two airlines flying MXP-NAP, EasyJet and Meridiana. In October, Meridiana's only flights are on Tuesdays. EasyJet has 3 flights on Oct 4, but only one of them is after 9.00 am, at 3.45 pm that lands in Naples at 17.10. You'd still have to get to to Sorrento - at least another hour. By train isn't much better. Take the train from the airport to Milan central station, then train to Naples, then either suburban train or private transfer to Sorrento. If you're lucky, you'd get the 10.07 train from MXP, and get to Naples at 3.50 p.m. and still have another hour or more to Sorrento. Driving isn't any better. viamichelin.com shows about 860 km from MXP to Sorrento and 8.5 hours driving time - optimal conditions, not including pit stops.

For a start, you should count nights, not days. Expect to use 1/2 day or more for getting from city to city, so that 3 nights gives you only 2 full days of sightseeing, with a couple hours more on each travel day. Every time you move, you have to pack, (breakfast?), check out, get to the train station with enough time to find your platform and board, then get to your new hotel, check in and drop your luggage. Then you can start sightseeing. You can only move as fast as the slowest person - whether it's someone who doesn't want to get out of bed, or someone who hogs the shower, or a slow packer, well, you get the idea. Allow time for "chores." Packing light usually makes it easier to move quickly (less weight, less bulk, and less to pack and unpack). But it means doing laundry more often. Even with enough clothes for a week, you'll need to do laundry at least once. Is your group disciplined enough to do hand laundry every other night? Do you need to plan on 2-3 hours for a laundromat or will you pay high prices for having your hotel take care of it? Packing light means taking few toiletries. Allow time to shop for things you aren't packing or may run out of. It takes longer to shop in Italy - stores don't always arrange things the way you're used to, packaging looks different and labeling is in a foreign language. Something you buy at a pharmacy at home may be sold only in supermarkets or vice versa. This is often a fun learning experience, just allow time for it.

A car can be an advantage in Tuscany (BTW Siena is a Tuscan town), and pretty much necessary for a stay in an agriturismo, which could be a great idea with kids, especially if there's a pool. Don't plan on long drives, though. That could be tough on the kids, 3 of them strapped into a smallish car's back seat isn't much fun. Also make sure the car will hold all your luggage. European cars are smaller and even those with ample seating room for 5 usually have very limited luggage space.

I would put in Venice as a must-see, especially with kids, and drop either the Amalfi Coast or the Cinque Terre . . . maybe even both. They are both difficult locations to get to. There is plenty to see and enjoy in Italy without them, and your goal should be to have an enjoyable trip, not to cover ground. If your family are outdoor, hiking, biking fans, then go to one of the lakes (Como, Gardo) for a few days.

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Chani,

Thanks for all the research aswell. How about Ryan Air? Seems like they have a few flights too. I normally used easyjet in the past but I'm hearing Ryan Air is a good one too. I'm going to do some research. Thanks