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Switzerland/Italy (2 weeks vacations)

I need a little advice for our Swiss/Italian venture.
My husband and I are planning on spending 15 days in Switzerland and Italy. Flying for friends wedding in Zurich in early July. We have previously visited Switzerland for a long weekend: Montreux, Zermatt, Vevey and Kippel (a small village high in the Alps by the glacier). And this time we are happy that we will be able to spend more time in this wonderful country.
Our big passions are mountains, beautiful scenery, and medieval towns. This is our itinerary and I really appreciate any input and info. We are in our early 40's; trying to see a touristy parts, as well as discover a local gems.

Fly from Boston to Zurich overnight on the 29th of June, arrive the next day on the 30th (Friday) than relax and visit the city. Next half day on Saturday continue visiting Zurich than attend the wedding in the afternoon. Sunday morning take the train and visit half day Bern, than continue with train and visit half day Lucerne. Leave Zurich on Monday morning and take train to Bernese Oberland. Stay two nights in Murren or Lauterbrunnen or Grimmewald (need your opinion which town would be best). We love hiking not too long, mountain biking, and waterfalls. Coming from the Green Mountains of Vermont we love everything local. On Wednesday leave earlier and catch a train to Chur stay one night and next morning on Thursday take Bernina Express Train in the morning do Tirano, then different train to Varenna by Lake Como, spend there an afternoon and evening. Next morning Friday take a train to Milano and by the train station rent a car for a full week.

From Milano drive to Venice, possible stop by Verona for a lunch a quick visit then stay with our Italian relatives near Venice for two nights. The next day visit Venice for a full day with my Italian cousin. Leave next morning than travel to Tuscany where we are planning on staying in the countryside for 3 nights (agriturismo-B&B). One full day to visit Florence. And another full day of visiting the hill towns optional: San Gimignano, Montepulciano (I would love to do some wine tasting), Orvieto, Sienna...Appreciate any advice on the lovely hill towns and B&B options.

After 3 nights in Tuscany we will drive back North and stay one night in Cinque Terre, possible in Vernazza. I know that we have to leave our car before the town somewhere in the parking and take a train to Vernazza. So hopefully we could do some late afternoon hike, and have a nice dinner. Next day leave around noon for Milan, where we will be dropping off our car and spend late afternoon and then night. Then the next morning fly back to Boston on Saturday July 15th. So that leaves as with 8 nights in Italy and I know is rushed but we can't take more time off. We will visit some of the museums as much as our time allows (I know we need a reservations), but in general that trip is more about introduction to Italy, that is why I choose a little bit of everything (lake, cites, countryside and riviera). Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Posted by
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Since I see there are no replies yet, I have a suggestion. Could you state your question(s) more concisely? Your post is a lot to read through and I'm not sure I can tell what it is you are seeking advice about.

Posted by
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The questions are kind of mixed in so it is a little tough to weed them out currently.

As far as town in the BO in Switzerland, absolutely go with Murren ; it is amazing! We stayed in nearby Wengen and after we thought if we were to do it again Murren would be our town of choice to stay with Wengen second in that region.

You are really racing through Italy so not sure I love that part of your plan. Less destinations with more time for those most important would be definitely preferable. For Tuscany countryside I would stay in a hill town like Pienza, Montepulciano, etc... rather than in an agriturismo ; these hill towns are in the country they are not cities,, are car free so lovely for walking around and staying out on a farm feels very remote.

All of the hassle to get to and back from Vernazza in the CT I would not advise for just 1 overnight would want at least 2 nights.

My main advise: pack lightly which will be a little challenging given the temp differences where you are traveling but will be essential with all of your moving about.

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Murren is a better base for hiking. The North Face Trail above the town is beautiful! The Mannlich to Kleinne Scheidegg walk is nice. Both trails are very well marked. Pick up a sandwich in town before hiking up. Bear in mind that the estimated walking times on the trails are for someone not stopping admiring the view!

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Thank you very much for the replies. I am still debating between Murren and Wengen. We are only staying two nights in the Alps, so not sure what area gives easier access to more attractions (waterfalls, hikes, scenery etc) also isn't Murren too isolated?
As for our Italian venture, I am thinking that maybe we should take a train from Florence and visit Cinque Terre just for a day? There is also a guided tour company that can take you on a full day trip of Cinque Terre from Florence.

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Krishanson, it would be better if you reposted your inquiry in a new thread so that karjoka8 doesn't get notification emails every time someone answers your questions.