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Staying for 2 months in Italy.

I’ve actually never had a Bucket List. No lofty fun life goals, other than just to travel more. I’ve just been satisfied with the day to day. My husband has always been more a goal obtainer, and I’ve just gone along for the ride.

But lately, I e really been thinking about staying for a couple months at some point in Italy. I’m retired, he’s not. We are a youthful 62, he much more physically (he surfs, he runs marathons, he bikes). He’s really not sure of his retirement plans, yet thinks he will work in some capacity into his 70’s. Many of his partners do PT.

So, this is the only fun goal I have. I. A planner, so looking to start planning to make it a reality. Fir those of you who have done this, what sort of official documents do you need? How did you go about finding a place fir that length of time. How did you do it? . I think I’d like to start in the Travestere neighborhood, then take trips around. I’ve only stayed in the Historic District, but it seems it woukd be a more authentic time going and living in a neighborhood.

Like I said, this is a few years out, but I want to start formulating a plan.

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I consider planning a long trip to be part of the fun of travel. My husband and I go to Europe - usually Italy - for 2-3 months each year. So, here my best answers to your questions:
1. Buy a good travel guidebook - Rick Steves' books are full of good information. Obviously, you have previously visited Rome but don't automatically conclude that Rome is your best homebase. Your home base should be where you have the best access to the other areas you want to visit. You can effectively visit most of Italy using buses and trains if you are near a good transportation hub. You may even want to choose two cities to make your home since you have the luxury of time.

As far as documents go, all you need is a passport but since your plan is a long range one you will need to check the requirements closer to the time of your travel.
2. We rent an apartment for our stays. VRBO and Airbnb are popular sources but there are others as well. We usually use VRBO and have never been disappointed. Staying in an apartment is less expensive than a hotel, provides the opportunity to cook your own meals and do your laundry. Plus, having a living room for your leisure time is a pleasure. For me 2 months of living in a hotel room and eating all my meals in a restaurant would not be enjoyable - but you may feel differently.
3. Since your plan is a few years out take the opportunity to learn the basic language. Buy Rosetta Stone or take a course at your local college or find another resource. Speaking even basic Italian opens up a whole new world. And the Italians appreciate your effort even if your skills are minimal.
4. Read books (fiction or nonfiction) about Italy, Watch Rick Steves travel shows, UTube videos and movies. Get excited about the possibilities you will have.
5. Most importantly, enjoy the planning process. If the trip never happens you have still had the pleasure of anticipating a great vacation.

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No special documents needed as long as you stay under 90 days. Once you get over 65, then some type of medical insurance to cover you there (Medicare does not) is needed.

As for lodging, Booking.com, AirBnB, VRBO all have places you could get for a month. If you plan on staying longer, then you may want to look for an agency there that handles rentals.

Trastevere is nice, it can get busy at night right around Piazza Santa Maria, but get over to Piazza de San Cosimato, just a few blocks away, and your into a "neighborhood".

There are many other areas, just off tourist areas that would work as well. Myself, I always thought doing a month in Rome, and then another month in a smaller town with good rail connections (Probably North, like Modena) just to ease day trip logistics. The other thing to keep in mind is if you get a good deal on an apartment, then overnight or weekend trips are options as well.

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I think I’d like to start in the Travestere neighborhood, then take
trips around.

Lulu, I'm not sure if this means staying the entire 2months in Rome and day-tripping/weekend tripping from there, or just planning on spending a few weeks there before moving on? Personally, with that kind of time, I'd split up locations to make exploring multiple regions less time-consuming. Say, 3 weeks somewhere near Venice (Padua? Verona?) for 3 weeks; 3 weeks in or near Florence; 3 weeks in Rome. Something like that.

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My family and I are in the midst of a two-month Italy stay right now. My husband and I are remote workers in our mid-thirties, with a 5 year old son. We rented an apartment for one month in Treviso, and are in Mantova/Mantua for the month of July. We had been planning this trip for about a year.

No official documents needed, except passports. We have COVID vaccine cards but no one has looked at them. For us, because I was traveling by myself with our son, I did travel with his birth certificate and a notarized letter signed by my husband that I had permission to take our son out of the country by myself. But no one needed those either, thankfully, and I don't think that applies to your situation :)

The hardest part for us was determining where, specifically, to use as our bases. I speak some Italian (I was more or less fluent in college 15 years ago, but have sadly lost most of it), so I wanted a city where I could immerse myself in the language (off the radar of the typical American tourist). Not too big, but not too small. In the northern part of the country because we haven't explored these regions as much. Historic, walkable core. Parks for my kiddo. Good wine region. Easy to travel to other small towns. Safe, where I won't have to be watching my wallet at every turn.

To help narrow down the cities, I actually made an excel spreadsheet. I kept a list of potential cities and then marked off whether they had the characteristics we were looking for. I knew we would want to rent an apartment, so I also checked Airbnb for locations to make sure there were suitable places (at least two bedrooms, fast wifi, AC, walking distance to stores) for our dates and in our price range. Also, I used Google Maps street view to help get a feel for the neighborhoods/cities.

Then I checked out every Italy guidebook from our local library. Rick's books are great, but they have a lot of information on fewer places, whereas other books provide a little information on a lot of places. In the end, the cities we stayed in, and most of the cities we visited, aren't even mentioned in Rick's book.

It was a LOT of planning. Fortunately, like you, I truly enjoy it. And this opportunity, to live in Italy for two months, has been absolutely incredible. There have absolutely been hard days. I've made countless language blunders. My son had a stomach bug and I had to carry all forty pounds of him for fifteen minutes across town to the only pharmacy that was open on a Sunday. Things are simply not as convenient as they are in America. Living in a country (even for a few months) is vastly different from being on vacation. But overall, it's been magical. My family and I are already planning to do it again next year, whether in Italy or another country in Europe, we're not sure. Please keep us updated on your trip planning progress, and I hope you'll give us an update on where you choose!

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Such wonderful suggestions and food for thought, especially splitting up the time to,different regions to make weekend or overnight trips easier.

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Our first visit to Venice was for six nights.
We were enchanted, totally seduced.
Our next visit was for two months, and now in total we have spent about a year in Venice.

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Two years ago we rented an apartment in Bologna, Trip Advisor, and last year we rented an apartment in Lucca, Booking.com. We picked those two locations because of train access. Staying in a town any length of time is a wonderful experience.

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Great advice above!

I have stayed in italy for 3 months a bunch of times.
YES, rent an apartment.
One added suggestion: study Italian before you go and when you get there, take a 2 week Italian class.
I usually take the class in one place for the 2 weeks then go to my new "home" for the rest of the 3 months. Speaking Italian makes the experience so much more fun. Especially if you live in one place, you'll be able to get friends with the locals if you can speak some Italian.

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To be pedantic, the time limit for an American/Canadian tourist visiting Italy is 90 days (not 3 months) within any 180-day period. And both the arrival day and departure day count. If you want a longer visit, you'll need to go through the laborious process of applying for a long-stay visa.

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Not sure when you are turning 65 but my Medicare plan through Kaiser Permanente does cover me when traveling abroad. It's a Medicare Advantage type of plan so costs a little more, but worth it. Basic Medicare does not provide coverage out of the country but there may be other plans available in your area if you don't have Kaiser where you live. I also buy the trip insurance offered when I book my flights that says it provides medical evacuation. I haven't researched whether the trip insurance really does what it says it will, so that is a planning task I should probably stop neglecting.

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Hi Lulu,

How exciting to be planning such an incredible adventure.

I’m going to second the advice about learning some of the language to help immerse yourself into the culture. Rosetta Stone was mentioned but I’d like to suggest preply.com which is a website that allows you to work one on one with an Italian tutor (or any language that’s offered). I’ve been using it for the last 2 months (and will continue) to prepare for our month long trip next May. I adore my tutor and have come a long way in such a short amount of time. Definitely add it to your list of objectives.

Happy planning
Amanda

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There is a lot of great advice here. We just returned from 2+ weeks in Italy as a family. Our “children” are 20 and 22, and while they will be welcome to travel with us in the future, we are planning for a future trip in 2024 for 3 months +/-to hopefully celebrate my retirement-my husband is currently retired. Our 2024 trip will not be restricted to college class schedules. I agree, part of them fun is research.
Which brings the first thing to research; when will you go? So, borrowing from a lot of great advice above, our experience, and my planning for 2024, here are my suggestions:
Use your library-checkout travel books on Italy. Those that you like and find useful, purchase them and then bookmark, highlight, tab, and use as references.
As referenced above, research WHEN you want to go.
Read and watch videos and see the areas and things you want to visit; then looking at these areas see where you may want to stay. You will likely start seeing “clusters” and then can find some city (bases) from which to base.
Look at various reviews (travel books like Rick Steves, TripAdvisor, booking.com, google, etc… for ratings and then consider where you want to stay).
Arming yourself with this information, check into public transportation / ease of travel to the cities you have identified. Decide if you want or need a rental car.
This is a good start.
Then you can make flight arrangements, hotel reservations, tourist site reservations, car rental reservations, etc.
Also, as someone else stated, travel insurance is a worthwhile investment.
Paperwork: research visas, medical insurance, prescriptions, passport current…

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Lots of terrific help!
Just as a side note? This proposed trip would not be Lulu's first rodeo in Italy. She recently traveled there with her (adult) family, and has been there at least one time before. See her previous posts:

https://community.ricksteves.com/users/103421/posts

salbeachbum, hope that celebratory 3-month trip is everything you hope it will be!

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My Aetna Medicare Advantage policy covers medically necessary expenses. You have to submit the claim yourself. Read the fine print to see specifics.

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A few thoughts from my half dozen trips to Italy

  • Like all travel, different people look for different things.

  • the guide books are ok, but have an open mind. For example, Cinque Terra is famous but nothing to do there other than walk. Except one or two vantage points, you need a drone to get a good pictures. But you can almost get to the Amalfi coast in the same time from Milan with high speed trains. Meanwhile a place like Syracuse is rarely mentioned, with its amazing history, Greek temple ruins and remains, and wonderful food. Modena is charming, has a balsamic vinegar museum and the Ferrari museum, and served the best steak I have had in life. Venice is a must see, but after a day I would be wondering what I will do the other 5 days and wished I had gone to Bergamo, Sirmione, Bologna, or Aosta valley.

  • a rail pass, and the high speed trains make for convenient traveling. There are also cheap and fast flights (e.g Milan to Catania). Driving is kinda needed in Tuscany or Dolomites, but I have seen roads where this room for one, and a truck is coming and you have to back out. Or using google maps to find a gas station on a Sunday and there being no station, or the station is there but it won't take your credit card, or it does take your credit card, but then no gas is pumped. And now gas prices will be sky high. I also got $400 in fines for driving in a city center without ever seeing a sign prohibiting cars from coming and parking in a parking garage.

  • I really dislike Rome where you were thinking of a base. I have been there twice, and seen all the sights. I also spoke to some other travelers who also had a bad impression and were not interested in returning. Especially near the train station - hookers, gangs (see the YouTube video of a guy actually getting mugged by a gang), train station scammers, etc. I am likely wrong, but I did not see a subway system either time there. You can't even get into see the Roman ruins unless you book days in advance.

  • I have gotten medical care twice in Italy. One time to urgent care, and it was surprisingly inexpensive and great service. I got some dental work I think with an X-ray and prescription, and I think it was $100, and just walked in. My medical plan covers me but even without it, you are unlikely to run up much bills unless its really serious.

  • Invest in some PacSafe or other company's anti-theft bags. Thievery is not limited to tourists, and I have spoken to several Italians who had been robbed and/or were very interested in that kind of thing for themselves.

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Fortunately, our Lulu has been to Rome twice before so has a pretty solid idea of why she is interested in it as a base, at least for part of the time. :O)

How varied our travel experiences can be, as well as our impressions of a place! As you yourself commented, RailRider, like all travel, different people look for different things. Just a few of my own?

We found many vantage points in the CT for wonderful views and pictures, including from the water. We also wouldn't be the least bit interested in a car museum or vinegar so some differences there. Not wrong, just different.

Rome very definitely has a metro system, It's not extensive (Lines A and B) and an additional line (C) has been under construction for some time (they keep running into archeological stuff) but we've taken it a couple of times. It can be useful for certain journeys. Rome also has an urban train system.

Termini really didn't strike us as much different than some other train stations we've been to, as far as what might be hanging around. Let's just say that it didn't freak us out, and no one hassled us for $ like they did at Paris' Gare du Nord.

A lot of us buy additional travel medical for medevac coverage back to the States, if needed. It's VERY expensive to have to pay for and not usually covered by regular insurance.

Hmmm, there are lots of archeological sites to be seen in Rome with just same-day walk-in tickets or without a ticket at all; Baths of Caracalla; Teatro di Marcello; Portico of Octavia; Parco degli Acquedotti; any of the Catacombs; Arch of Constantine; Area Sacra di Largo Argentina (can see down into from the street); Baths of Diocletian; Pantheon; Roman Forum/Palatine/Imperial forum (S.U.P.E.R. Pass)... you get the idea. Just a long walk on the Via Appia took us by the remains of umpty ancient monuments. Again, just different experiences?

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My wife and I stayed for an extended time in Perugia about 10 years ago. One of the best experiences was attending the language school there. Not only did we learn some basic Italian, but we met other students, from all over Europe and even Japan, who shared our interests. We found it somewhat difficult to make friends with the locals in Perugia, perhaps because it is a hill town, with a built-in distrust of "outsiders", and perhaps because the locals were busy working and did not have time to go see the sights that we wanted to see. Also, a language school itself will also frequently organize outings for its students, which can take you to some very interesting places.

As far as planning, in addition to what others have suggested, look into the ease of attending a language school in the city you choose (as well as the cost); the ease of getting local transport from whatever apartment you choose (do not forget buses); ease of getting to grocery stores, pharmacies, bakeries, etc.; ease of getting to a train station in case you want to make trips to other locations; and whether the apartment has an elevator (if it is on a high floor it can get rather tiresome to carry your groceries up multiple flights of stairs). Peter