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Specific Questions: Rome Tour Needs/Venice for One Night/Tuscany Day Trip/Lodging Locations

Hello again all!

Having received great direction in the overall itinerary planning portion of our Italy trip (that thread is here https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/italy/italy-slow-short-travel-help-me-narrow-down-please) I'm back with some more specific questions. First, here's our itinerary. All lodging is booked but change-able at this point. Note this is for this July.

Day 0: Arrive Rome 9am
Days 1-5: Rome. Apartment very near Plaza Navona.
Day 6: Train to Florence
Days 7-12 Florence. Apartment very near Ufizi.
Day 13: Train back to Rome. RS Recommended hotel near Campo di Fiore.
Day 14: Rome.
Day 15: Noon flight home

My questions are:

  1. How did we do with general lodging locations? I want to be able to walk as much as possible/avoid the need for taxis. I'm fine with the metro as well.

  2. What should we absolutely book ahead of time? I'm certain we must book the Vatican. We plan to do an early entry tour to beat the crowds and the heat (this trip is in July). It's not a cheap tour and this is a budget trip, but we are splurging on it. If we can get by without any other paid tours, that would be ideal. My husband thinks the Colosseum requires a tour as well for this purpose. Thoughts? Anything in Florence? I get that I need to book tickets online to avoid standing in line for the Accademia; is this tour-worthy or can this be done on one's own with just a little pre planning?

  3. Any recommendations on getting out into the countryside from Florence? We obviously would need a tour. It sadly can't be a tour which involves food, as I cannot eat and travel by bus (medical issue; trust me.) I can sip wine and travel a bit. Feel free to tell me this is a terrible idea.

  4. Are there better or worse days of the week to do certain things? For example: we were considering doing the Colosseum on a Sunday morning as we assume everything else will be closed. But is that everyone else's plan too? What about our Florence days? How would those best be utilized? See annoyingly detailed notes:

Wednesday. Day 0: Arrive Rome 9am.
Thursday. Day 1: Rome. No scheduled tours. Wander around day.
Friday. Day 2: Rome. Vatican tour at 7am.
Saturday. Day 3: Rome.
Sunday. Day 4: Rome. 8:15am Colosseum tour?
Monday. Day 5: Rome.
Tuesday. Day 6: Early train to Florence (not yet booked)
Wednesday. Day 7: Florence.
Thursday. Day 8: Florence.
Friday. Day 9: Florence. Day trip to Siena OR see below.
Saturday Day 10: Florence.
Sunday Day 11: Florence.
Monday. Day 12: Florence.
Tuesday. Day 13: Early train back to Rome
Wednesday. Day 14. Rome
Thursday. Day 15 Departure Day

Finally: I am considering surprising my husband with a super quick overnight to Venice. Yay or nay? Options include:

-Doing Venice as an overnight trip while in Florence. We did this when we visited Paris; we took the train to Amsterdam for just one night, taking barely anything with us.

-Stealing one night from each Rome and Florence in between each city. So that would be:

-Day 5. train from Rome to Venice, a late afternoon and evening in Venice
-Day 6: One full day in Venice.
-Day 7: mid-day train to Florence.

Of course, 'don't do this' is also an option. I realize Venice deserves more time. And I get that I may be over planning and thus can save Venice for another trip. But I'm also of the 'do nice things for your husband' mindset and he's always wanted to see Venice. I've never been to Italy; he's been to both Rome and Florence.

Ok. That was a lot! I'll stop now. Thanks in advance!

Posted by
11653 posts

No to Venice this trip. Save it for a Northern Italy trip. Venice deserves more than one night.
Why would you need a tour to travel in Tuscany for one day? Rent a car! Get one on Borgo Ognisanti, easy in and out to autostrada.

Posted by
463 posts

I can not drive a car with a manual transmission. Thus, no car rental this time. :-(

Posted by
7209 posts

You’ve got a lot of days in Florence - maybe you could chop one or two off and just devote those to Venice? There’s no other city like Venice.

Posted by
7304 posts

You can request an automatic
We always do for our Europe rentals and always get one

Posted by
11831 posts

I also think you have a lot of time in Florence. That can be good, but it can also be Museum overload. I would go to Venice on either day 10 or day 6 for three nights.

Posted by
3961 posts

Florence is wonderful but I would also concur with others to delete some time there and devote 3 nights to Venice. We spent a week there and didn't see it all. I do think visiting Rome, Florence and Venice will give you a well balanced Italy experience. ;)

Posted by
463 posts

Great. Ok. So too much time in Florence (I thought that, but we also like slow travel so I was torn.) And I can rent an automatic car.

Perhaps: steal a night from Rome and a night from Florence and do two nights in Venice. And then spend one of the Florence days in a rental car in the country. Better plan?

Posted by
11831 posts

Don't take time from Rome. Go to Venice on day 6 and Florence on day 10. If you do not want to drive at all, a one day tour with Tours by Roberto is just the thing.

Posted by
16687 posts

LOL. I'm conflicted about adding a location due to a rather long previous thread where our friend here nicely trimmed down a previous "Want to do everything!" list! :O)

Yes, the time allocated to Florence is generous but I also thought that there would be more than 1 day trip scheduled within those 6 days (Lucca? Fiesole?). If that's not the case then sure, taking a couple days for Venice would work.

I turned out to be a real Florence geek - completely looney over all that fabulous Renaissance art and architecture - so I probably lean towards more time in that one than many other folks do!

Posted by
463 posts

Kathy--RIGHT?!? I'm trying REALLY hard to keep this a chill trip! And I solemnly swear, if we do Venice, no other day trips! Really.
Honestly, I'm not a day trippy kind of person. I realize the effort and time it takes to get to a train station in a country where you do not speak the language. So I'm happier to pick two (or, ok, maybe three) cities and explore on foot.

You also missed the whole 'oh hey, Sorrento is only a two hour train ride from Rome' fiasco. That only lasted a couple of hours. Ha!

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I did? Shucks, missed all the fun! :O(

I realize the effort and time it takes to get to a train station in a
country where you do not speak the language.

Actually, I think there's a difference between having to pack UP and move to a new location/accommodation and just hopping on a train for the day: you can move a lot faster and lighter. Italian trains are really not difficult at all once you get the hang of them (and I don't speak the language either) and are usually quite efficient. Spur-of-the moment journeys on the regionale and local trains are generally really inexpensive as well.

This only applies to day trips to places within reasonable distances, of course.