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Scenic Sunday Drive from Florence

Greetings everyone! We're renting a car for a day and I have a couple of questions:

  1. Is ZTL not enforced on Sundays on all other cities (e.g. Florence, Siena, Arezzo)?
  2. We're planning to drive to Greve, Panzano, Castellina, Siena, Pienza, Montepulciano....then back to Florence...any other suggestions or places we should consider or replace? We're not really stopping to visit museums....more of a stop for wine/food, photos and a quick walk.
  3. Do establishments (restaurants, etc.) in the smaller towns have limited hours during Sundays?

We're planning on starting around 8AM-9PM. (traveling in mid June)

Thanks.

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That’s way too much for one day.

ZTLs are enforced on Sunday, which is great because the purpose is to make the cities pedestrian friendly.

Drive through Greve to Castillina, back through Radar and then back to Florence. Consider lunch at a winery.

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ZTLs are enforced on Sunday, which is great because the purpose is to make the cities pedestrian friendly.

Thanks. I thought Sundays were not enforced. Is there a site that has a consolidated info on all the ZTLs in Italy?

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A recent thread from an experienced poster listed a site that collects ZTL information from all over Italy. The English translation on the site isn't great, but the Italian reads perfectly normally and the search by town function works well. It may not be 100% current or accurate, but it looks pretty good to me.

Credit to Philip, the original poster. I've bookmarked this ZTL site for future trips.

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168 posts

A recent thread from an experienced poster listed a site that collects ZTL information from all over Italy. The English translation on the site isn't great, but the Italian reads perfectly normally and the search by town function works well. It may not be 100% current or accurate, but it looks pretty good to me. Credit to Philip, the original poster. I've bookmarked this ZTL site for future trips.

Thank you.

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Every city has its own rules.
In Florence the ZTL is open on Sunday.
In Siena it’s never open.
In Arezzo there is a zone A and a zone B. Zone A is closed on weekdays. Zone B is always closed.
There is a website which consolidated all ZTL info nationwide. Unfortunately I don’t see an English language option.
https://www.accessibilitacentristorici.it/ztl/

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Every city has its own rules.
In Florence the ZTL is open on Sunday.
In Siena it’s never open.

Thank you. Do they give you plenty of time/distance before the ZTL?...like a 1/2 mile or 500m before the entrance?

We’ll just have to be really careful and make sure the other small towns on this drive we pass have well marked ZTL signs.

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Do they give you plenty of time/distance before the ZTL?...like a 1/2 mile or 500m before the entrance?

ZTL's usually start at road junctions, so one direction is the ZTL and other isn't. It is on the sign, so you have don't have to do a U-turn, just spot the sign.
Example: http://image.b4in.net/resources/2013/09/18/1379536881-DSC_0475.JPG
The text underneath are the rules and operating times. If you don't read Italian, or don't have time to read them, play safe and go the other way.

½ mile before could be 4 junctions before! This is Italian cities, not the USA. Expect 50-100 metres warning.

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ZTL's usually start at road junctions, so one direction is the ZTL and other isn't. It is on the sign, so you have don't have to do a U-turn, just spot the sign.
Example: http://image.b4in.net/resources/2013/09/18/1379536881-DSC_0475.JPG
The text underneath are the rules and operating times. If you don't read Italian, or don't have time to read them, play safe and go the other way.
½ mile before could be 4 junctions before! This is Italian cities, not the USA. Expect 50-100 metres warning.

Thank you! Appreciate the insight.

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Every place you mentioned has well marked ZTLs. Even if Sunday is a free day, park outside and walk in. The streets are narrow and there’s no place to park usually. Cars really spoil the ambience.

BTW, Greve has no ZTL but it is a lot easier to park across the street in the free parking and walk into the Piazza.

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As mentioned above, even if the ZTL may be open on Sunday or at night, it doesn’t mean there is a whole lot of street parking available. The best strategy is always to park in the lots outside the ZTL and walk in the ZTL on foot. Florence ha sprobably the largest ZTL in the world, and yet if you park at the FORTEZZA parking lot or the STAZIONE SMN underground parking lot, the walk is not that overwhelming.
In Siena, the largest lot is the FORTEZZA lot, more or less near the Artemio Franchi soccer stadium. From there you can walk to the Piazza del Campo in minutes. In Arezzo I always park at the Parcheggio (parking) Pietri. From ther there is an escalator that takes you through tha city walls into the Duomo.
Just use a Google Maps and search PARCHEGGIO and stuff will come up. Parcheggio (pronounce: Parkeggio) means parking lot.
Small towns have very small ZTLs. There are plenty of parking lots outside and the walk from the lot to the city center is never more than a few minutes.
This is how parking lots are parked in Europe:
https://goo.gl/images/hCEjXM
Basically a white P in a blue background sign.
ZTL is always preceded by this sign
https://goo.gl/images/bTma3j
A round white sign with a red border in International road signage language means NO MOTOR VEHICLES PERMITTED.
there will be a warning sign 150 mts (500 ft) before the start (there will be a 150m below it), of the zone and at the start of it.
The camera apparatus will be very conspicuous up above as in the images below:
https://goo.gl/images/d6Y35o
https://goo.gl/images/xH9pwV

Read below for more info on ZTL
http://www.athomeintuscany.org/2011/10/15/pisa-ztl-limited-traffic-zone/

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Every place you mentioned has well marked ZTLs. Even if Sunday is a free day, park outside and walk in. The streets are narrow and there’s no place to park usually. Cars really spoil the ambience. BTW, Greve has no ZTL but it is a lot easier to park across the street in the free parking and walk into the Piazza.

Thanks DougMac!

As mentioned above, even if the ZTL may be open on Sunday or at night, it doesn’t mean there is a whole lot of street parking available. The best strategy is always to park in the lots outside the ZTL and walk in the ZTL on foot. Florence ha sprobably the largest ZTL in the world, and yet if you park at the FORTEZZA parking lot or the STAZIONE SMN underground parking lot, the walk is not that overwhelming.
In Siena, the largest lot is the FORTEZZA lot, more or less near the Artemio Franchi soccer stadium. From there you can walk to the Piazza del Campo in minutes. In Arezzo I always park at the Parcheggio (parking) Pietri. From ther there is an escalator that takes you through tha city walls into the Duomo.
Just use a Google Maps and search PARCHEGGIO and stuff will come up. Parcheggio (pronounce: Parkeggio) means parking lot.
Small towns have very small ZTLs. There are plenty of parking lots outside and the walk from the lot to the city center is never more than a few minutes.
This is how parking lots are parked in Europe:
https://goo.gl/images/hCEjXM
Basically a white P in a blue background sign.
ZTL is always preceded by this sign
https://goo.gl/images/bTma3j
A round white sign with a red border in International road signage language means NO MOTOR VEHICLES PERMITTED.
there will be a warning sign 150 mts (500 ft) before the start (there will be a 150m below it), of the zone and at the start of it.
The camera apparatus will be very conspicuous up above as in the images below:
https://goo.gl/images/d6Y35o
https://goo.gl/images/xH9pwV
Read below for more info on ZTL
http://www.athomeintuscany.org/2011/10/15/pisa-ztl-limited-traffic-zone/

I really appreciate all the input Roberto! I got a lot of googling to do ;-)