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Request for identity credentials through Whatsapp.

I'm a first-time traveler to Italy. I made a reservation for an apartment for a two-night stay in Milan through booking.com. The communication I've had with the host has been good. Several days before the upcoming reservation, I received the following request, sent through the booking.com app.

"As soon as you enter the apartment, you must submit via WhatsApp the photos of the identification documents (identity card or passport) of all the people staying inside the structure. It is absolutely mandatory by law in Italy and cannot be refused at the behest of the Police."

Google tells me the request is legit, However, I am concerned about the method of transmission, i.e. through Whatsapp. How can I protect myself from identity theft in this situation?

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They are correct - you will need to submit your passport information at every place in stay in Italy. If you are not being met in person - like a hotel check-in - you will need to submit images of your passport digitally. Copies of your passport data will be stored many places across Italy after your trip - it's just the way it is.

There is really no secret information on your passport and everyone should have a photo of it that you can access in a pinch as a back up anyway. WhatsApp is encrypted and is fine for submitting this information. You will find WhatsApp is the preferred mode of communication by nearly all hotels and hosts.

This is the normal course of things,
=Tod

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As noted, the request is probably legit. WhatsApp messages are end-to-end encrypted.

For further security, disconnect from any wi-fi network and use cellular data to make
the transmission. You can also install a VPN on your phone and activate it before sending
the messages.

I also see no reason why you couldn't take the pictures and transmit them before you even
leave for Italy.

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How can I protect myself from identity theft in this situation?

By not sending personal information through WhatsApp.

Yes, providing ID is required, but the method being asked here would not make me comfortable. Just because it may be encrypted, it doesn't mean it cannot be viewed by anyone who has access to the recipient's phone or accounts (Google, email, etc.), whether in the same household, or if their own phone or accounts are compromised. Any picture you send through WhatsAp is stored in the recipient's photo gallery on their phone and their cloud, which are NOT encrypted. It's the sending that's encrypted, not the saving, if that makes sense.

This is another reason I stay at hotels and not apartment. I just show my passport when I arrive at check in and never have to send anything beforehand.

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Hiredman is right on: this is a normal procedure, and there's nothing in your passport that will compromise your identity. Relax. :O)

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Thank you for this information and the caution. Frankly, it is hard to relax with all the news about scams and identify thefts. I am not that savvy about technological stuff so it's not clear to me, at times, what's safe and what's not.

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There is really no secret information on your passport

This is true, but doesn't mean everyone would feel comfortable sending strangers photos of it to be stored in that person's cloud. I think this all comes down to personal comfort. If the OP is fine sending photos of their passport to their apartment host's phone then it's ok, but it's also fine for a person to prefer not to.

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You can be conservative about your data and not want to send it, but it is required by law in Italy. So if you have booked "no host" lodging you really have no other choice but it send your data electronically in some fashion.

They are also required to keep it for, I think, 5 years by law but Italian privacy groups are fighting to limit retention of customer data after the EU push to strengthen privacy laws.

=Tod

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if you have booked "no host" lodging you really have no other choice but it send your data electronically in some fashion.

Exactly. This is the key.

You also just made me think that sometimes at hotels they just glance at my passport and sometimes they take a photocopy. So I'm sure there's photos of my passport sitting in some back filing cabinet somewhere that anyone could access. Funny, I never thought of that before or cared.

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What's App is the fantastic way we communicated as a group on our Rick Steves' tour this month.

It was how we also communicated on the days we were traveling on our own with local tours, hotels, airbnbs, organized activities, taxi's etc.

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I understand that some options for accommodations will require passport. But I am also a little hesitant in sharing it like that.
But again, hotels do scan your passport, and gate agents at the airport...
Reminded me of the small tour I joined last year in Morocco. Well regarded company and recommended by friends (Portuguese company based in Morocco). They did require a copy of my passport sent through Whatsapp so they could reserve the hotels. I didn't like it, and one of the reasons I usually don't like to join a tour.

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This is not an uncommon request across Europe, including the use of WhatsApp for sending sensitive data. There are strict rules about what can happen with your data and how it's processed within the EU, and people can be prosecuted for misuse- if you want more info you can look up GDPR. So it's in the interest of the host to keep your data protected.

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Good point about the greater protections in the EU. Our U.S. government has done almost nothing to curtail the abuses.

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@Mary:

Your passport does not contain any PHI or other sensitive information, like SSN or credit card number. It just has your name, place and date of birth, your nationality and the date of issuance and expiration date. It doesn’t It doesn’t even show your current address.

Yet, if one has your name, last name and your city of residence, s/he can find online everything about you, including your age, date of birth, current and past addresses, your relatives, your phone number, your email, your employer, the value of your house, how much you paid for it, when you bought it, how much you are paying in property taxes, and so much more information that your passport does not show.

Go to any of the following websites and test for yourself using your name, and you will see how much information about you is already available to everybody:
www.truepeoplesearch.com
www.searchpeoplefree.com
www.zabasearch.com
www.truthfinder.com
www.intelius.com
www.beenverified.com

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@Mary-my wife and I have been traveling to Italy every year since 2004 for vacation. We’ve ALWAYS sent our info to hosts through WhatsApp and have NEVER had an issue with our information leaking online. We’ve also stopped using booking.com for our vacation stays although we do use it as a search engine. You’d be surprised how easily businesses in America can access your information, like Roberto has said. I’m American, and my debit and credit card info has been stolen more times than I can count, mostly because of the way American retailers and restaurants take payments. In the EU, and most of the rest of world, it’s tap and go, with a PIN number. In the USA ONLY it’s with a swipe which is usually done at the cash register by an employee of said business, not at the table in a restaurant or at the register, BY THE CUSTOMER. I live on an island, one of those off Cape Cod. At least two dozen times in the last eight years my card numbers were copied and somebody tried using my card outside of where I live. It was almost always done at a local business. Nowadays I only use tap and go and only using my phone and never my card. When I’m traveling I use my card and have never had an issue. Why do I mention these things? Because the transaction on WhatsApp is 100% secure and is the ONLY WAY hosts will accept you to send a copy of your passports. It is safe. It is secure. If you’re not sure about it, then stay at a hotel. I don’t trust Zuckerberg but I DO trust WhatsApp. I also know that my information isn’t on any of those sites mentioned by Roberto because I’ve paid to have searches done and have my information removed. Some of it I knew was there, others I didn’t. It’s taken more than 7 months to remove it all and even now I get alerts that my info has been found again and they remove it. Check out identitydefender which is associated with express VPN. So, Mary, before posting useless information and conspiracy theories, please, educate yourself