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Report from 10 days in Milan, Lake Orta and Lake Maggiore

Hi all,

I got some some help here when we were planning our trip, so thought I'd pass on some things that might help others. We're a White couple in our 50s/60s who've never been to Italy before, for context.

We flew from the West Coast US to Milan Malpensia. Spent one night in Milan, train to Pettanesco on Lake Orta for two nights, taxi/walk to Stresa on Lake Maggiore for 2 nights, then ferry to Cannero Riveria on Lake Maggiore for 3 nights. Taxi/bus back to MXP on departure. All of of travel except for Milan was arranged by Inntravel. We did a ton of walking/hiking (on purpose).

Transportation. At MXP it was much faster and easier to buy the express train tickets from inside the ticket station than at the vending machines. Weird but true. In Milan we walked or used BikeMi bikeshare (we're bike commuters at home, so it was much easier for us than figuring out the Metro). The protected bikeway system was superb and bikeshare was really affordable and easy to use. We weren't 100% sure we were on the correct train leaving Milan Centrale (no announcement and no ticket check) but we were -- big contrast between that regional train and our transfer to another regional train to get to Lake Orta. The ferry system on both lakes was super easy to use and understand. We did some one-way hikes with return on the ferries on a few days (about 5 Euro for a one-way ticket back each time).

Departing MXP -- make sure you allow plenty of time for all the walking you'll need to do if you're flying direct back to the US! The US-based gates were WAAAAAY at one end of the airport from where the bus dropped us off and also WAAAAY far from security. It took us at least an hour from drop off to check in to through security due simply to all the walking from one end to the other.

Lodging. In Milan we stayed at the Hotel Bagliori, about a 10 minute walk from Centrale Stazione.

Money - the only places that were cash only were the ferry terminals. We pulled out 100 Euro at a bank in Milan and only used about half of it -- the rest was all card nearly everywhere, even the small markets.

Safety -- I could see that if you were going to get pick-pocketed, Centrale Stazione would be the place :). It was packed and lots of folks who were looking for opportunity. But it was fine. No concerns anywhere else at all.

Crowds - other than the train station, Milan wasn't any more busy than I'd expect a large city to be. We went to the Duomo in the late afternoon and it was lovely and not very busy. We went to Sforza Castle Friday morning and there were tons of school kids there on field trips, but nothing different from what you'd see at home at a place like that. The small towns on Lake Orta and Maggiore were really busy on Saturday and Sunday (streets were literally packed), but with day trippers. They were beautiful weather days and it totally made sense. On Monday wet weather rolled in and the number of people dropped by 2/3.

Weather. The first 3 days were sunny and in the 70s. Perfect. Then the wet rolled in (the same system that was flooding just a little bit to our East :(). Luckily it only rained really hard at night (which I think is the normal weather pattern) and the daytime highs were in the upper 60s, which was perfect for all the hiking we did. So we didn't get the glorious sunny pictures, but we didn't get rained out either. And the gardens were gorgeous and in full bloom!

Language. I spend the last 6 months doing Duolingo everyday and it really did help in being able to understand the gist of most things, read the important signs, etc. My ability to speak was at a 2 year old level, but I could count and point :).

Happy to answer specific questions if folks have them.

Carrie

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Hi Carrie!
Thanks for your post. We visited those areas a few years ago and really enjoyed that region of Italy. I’m impressed with your biking and hiking!😊 Did you get a chance to explore the islands on Lake Maggiore and Lake Orta? What were some of your favorite sights on your trip?

Laurie

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Laurie -

We are architecture/design and gardens people, not really museum people, so we actually didn’t visit any of the island on either lake. Which I know some would think that we wasted our trip, but I’d disagree :).

I went into Every Single church we passed, from the Duomo in Milan to the small parish church in the villages. They were all amazing — every one was bigger on the inside than the outside due to the design and all had different styles of art, etc. I also really enjoyed the Sacre Monte complex on the hill above Orta San Giulio. Lots of cool animal frescos, etc. The villages of Miasino (Lake Orta), Oggiono, and Donego (Lake Maggiore) were all just fascinating to walk around in. Each was different, including the bread delivery to bags on your front gate we saw in Miasino. We also had the most amazing lunch in the garden at the one ristorante in Miasino.

We did visit Villa Parcavico in Stresa one day. The gardens were awesome. The weird zoo part was, well, weird. But it was a nice stop if you like gardens!

I also really enjoyed our visit to Castle Sforza. It was such a fortress and you could really get a sense for how Milan developed out from it in my “classic European” frame of reference. Then at the end we visited Cannobio, which is on the Swiss boarder, and that city chose a maze of narrow streets as their defense - really we got semi lost trying to get to the ferry terminal because it was so twisty :). It was really cool to see both places and approaches.

I also loved the old/new contrast in Milan. From the juxtaposition of the Duomo next to the high fashion shopping district to riding from the Garibaldi area with its modern high rises and smooth pavement to Sforza with brick and cobblestone roads and centuries old buildings.

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Thank you Carrie. I've been trying to self-plan a walking trip in the Lake Orta/Lake Maggiore area and InnTravel may be the way to go. Did you like the hotels?

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Trotter -

We were very pleased with the hotels. I did give some feedback to InnTravel about the restaurant service at Hotel Giardetto (we felt very much like 2nd class citizens compared to those not on the half-board plan, but I'm going to give them some slack because it's early in the season), but they were all in great locations, breakfast everywhere was amazing, and all met expectations. Hotel Flora is Stresa is definitely a 'tourist hotel' with bus groups staying there, but it was still calm and relaxing and the view from our room balcony was AMAZING. And then Hotel Cannero is one of the top 5 places I've ever stayed -- from the warm service, the really, really cool building (it was a monastery originally), excellent food and wine, etc. We're not 'luxury travelers', but not hostel-budget travelers either and the hotels hit our sweet spot just like the travel brochures promised.

For the walking InnTravel's notes were very comprehensive, the luggage transfer was super smooth, etc.

Carrie

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Monica,

We were very happy with it. We were in an upper floor room and the ceiling was VERY slanty (I banged my head and I'm shorter) but the room was huge, clean, comfortable and the bathroom was excellent. We at breakfast there and it was solid. Nothing fancy, but nothing 'bad' either. Super convenient to Central Station and then we walked from there to the Duomo and back. Not the most attractive neighborhood (things really closed up at night), but that's not why we were there. It was perfect for the one night stay we needed!

Carrie

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Hi Carrie— thanks for the great report! We’re planning a trip to Italy next spring, on our own in Rome and then a RS tour that ends at Lake Orta. Trying to decide whether to spend one night at Lake Maggiore and 2 in Milan before we fly home, or to book 3 nights in Milan and only travel to Lake Maggiore for a day trip if the weather is good. Sounds like the overnight portion of your lake visit was the most tourist-free, which makes spending the night appealing, as we’d otherwise most likely have to make the trip on a weekend. But would it be a wasted 24 hours if it’s raining and cold? Based on your recent visit, which would you do? Thanks!

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Hi Ruth,

First off, I don't think you can make a bad decision with your options :). Were you thinking of staying/visiting Stresa? I really think you can go either way. I'm a bigger fan of only unpacking once, so I think that I would pick the stay in Milan and make a day trip to Stresa (which also gives you the flexibility to skip it if you want as well). In May I wouldn't think it's going to be cold, but it might be wet. We live in the Pacific NW, so the wet really didn't bother us, but if it's not a thing you like then you might not enjoy your time in Stresa as much -- most of our enjoyment was visiting gardens and walking around and eating outside.

Carrie