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I know I am trying to do too much, but here goes: I am trying to decide between two or three days in Assisi or two or three days in Florence. We are going to be taking the train on most of our trip (April 19 - May 3, 2016), but I would like to take a day to travel through Tuscany. Rather than getting an international driver's license for one day, we are thinking about a day with Tours by Roberto. His tours leave either Florence or Siena.

Here is our itinerary now:

Arrive Rome - nights 1, 2, 3
Assisi - nights 4, 5, 6 Here is where I am looking at possible change.
Florence - nights 7, 8
Cinque Terre - nights 9, 10
Varenna - nights 11, 12
Depart Milan - night 13

Thanks!

Posted by
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You do realize that an International Driver Permit costs $15 at AAA, takes about 10 minutes to get ?

Posted by
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Kathy,

In addition to the I.D.P. there are some other potentially expensive issues you'll need to be aware of when driving in Italy, such as the ZTL (limited traffic) areas, speed cameras, parking charges, high fuel costs, etc. Have a look at some of the recent threads in the "Italy" section and others from people that have just received tickets from Italy, which in one case was 10 months after the alleged offenses.

For a one day trip, it might be preferable to use an organized tour such as the one you mentioned. At least if you visit any wineries, you'll be able to have a glass or two on the tour, but won't be able to do that if you're driving.

I'd suggest cutting one night in Assisi and add to Florence, especially as you're planning to take a day tour from Florence.

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For my taste, it is a bit too fast. I would cut at least one locations - probably Varenna - and add those nights to Florence and Rome. Depending on what your priorities are, you could do 2 nights Assisi (3 seems a lot to me) and add one to the Cinque Terre as that is a bit of a hike for only 2 nights. If you want to have a proper look around at all 5 towns and do a little hiking, 3 nights is very nice. What do you have in mind to do in Assisi for three nights?

As to driving, the biggest drawback is the expense of the car and petrol, and the difficulty of parking in any of the places you are visiting. I think a Tour by Roberto is a great idea. He does a wonderful job and you will experience things you cannot on your own in a car.

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I'd spend only 1 day on Assisi and add a day to Florence and spend 2 days in Venice. International driving permits are not by the. All you need to do is visit www.aaa.com/vacation/idpf.html, download and print the application, get 2 passport photos and go to an AAA office with that and $15 and turn them in. You can also mail the filled out form with $15, 2 passport sized photos and photocopies of the front and back of your driver's license.

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I would spend three nights in Firenze and two nights in Assisi. If you want to see Franciscan sights outside the city of Assisi, you can hire a taxi for a few hours (they will pick you up, drop you off, return at an agreed upon time, take you to the next sight, repeat). I did this with a friend, I think it was 40 or 50 euro for both of us for about three hours of visiting sights that were too far to walk to easily.

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Assisi - nights 4, 5, 6 Here is where I am looking at possible change.

It depends what you want to accomplish with your trip. Some people plan trips with the goal of "doing" a city and checking off boxes from a guidebook inventory of museums, castles, monuments, etc. (yes, sometimes I travel that way, too). You can "do" Assisi easily in two nights, even one if you hustle.

Assisi, however, is less a place to "do" than a place to "be". Whether or not you are Catholic, or of any particular faith, the tranquil, spiritual essence of Assisi is palpable and enchanting. That is especially true in the evening and early morning.

We spent five nights in Assisi a couple of years ago. We hated to leave, but we had to get on a train to "do" Rome before flying home. Our fondest memories of Assisi are of the people -- the clerk behind the counter at the tiny grocery store, and the friendly local customers who helped us decide on our selections. The cafe owner who proudly showed us the Roman-era foundation of her shop, visible in a glass-enclosed cutaway in the floor in the back room. The cheerful laundress who had our clothes washed, folded and ready right on time. (Did I mention none of the foregoing spoke word-one of English?) The silver-haired Franciscan friar smiling and laughing as he chatted away in Italian on his iPhone in the piazza in front of the Santa Maria degli Angeli cathedral. The smiling shopkeepers greeting each other in Piazza Comune as they walked to work early in the morning. We can't remember being in a place surrounded by so many happy -- joyful -- people. (Well, except maybe the old gypsy lady in the piazza of Santa Chiara, who when I declined to give her money, stormed off muttering, "Cattivo francese ...!")

When the daytrippers arrived, we moved toward the outskirts of town, away from the "sites". We walked up the hill to Rocca Maggiore, and contemplated how the view of the valley must have affected St. Francis a millenium ago. We sat in the tiny, sparse Church of San Stefano, and understood what our hotel owner had told us, that locals prefer to plan weddings in the humble setting of this stone church, rather than in the massive, opulent Basilica down the road. St. Francis would have approved.

And when night came, we stood at the rail of the rampart of San Francesco, overlooking the lights of the valley -- just the two of us and a couple of Franciscan friars, in silence. Maybe it was 20 minutes we were there, maybe an hour. Didn't matter.

Rick Steves talks of travelers becoming "temporary locals". There is no better place to do that than Assisi. If you decide on a shorter visit this time, scope it out and plan to come back. We do.

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Great responses - thanks to everyone! Jeff, I particularly enjoyed your experience - I felt like I was right there! I can hardly wait!

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We spent 11 nights in Italy last September and we loved our itinerary... We only used public transportation and stayed in city centered apartments. looking at your flight here is what I would do.

Please ignore though if you so choose :-)

4 nights Rome - we did 3 having that 4th night would have been great to further enjoy the visual beauty of old Rome. The pastel colored buildings suprised me.. as well as the grandness of Pantheon.. If you choose to focus on one maybe 2 major sites Like sistine Chapel or Forum instead of a deep tour of all of them you will have more time to explore the Travastere neighborhood and the sunset views over the river at a slower pace..etc

2N Orvieto- instead of Assisi.. only 1 hr from Rome and it will give u the taste of "Tuscany" you desire without a car. That is what we did and the one night we spent there was our favorite of the whole 16 Night trip to Europe. Easy to get to w/out car! Do this over Assisi since it is on the way.. this town exceeded any dream of mine that I have ever dreamt a hilltown could be! However I have not seen others. :-P

(If u choose to skip Venice then have 4 nights between and Assisi)

2N Venice (but stay IN Venice) is amazing and exceeded my expectations. The Dorsoduro neighborhood will feel so authentic and quite. You cannot miss this gem of a city..ecsp if you stay on the quiter sides. We disliked the rialto bridge area due to crowds and only on our last day when we visited that area did we realize why some ppl feel like Venice is "Disneyland" like. Once you start to qander the buidlings and colors are so eye catching! A dream..

2N Florence- Florence is walkable and on the small side, although beautiful you will not need an extra night since Orvieto/Assisi and your day trip with Roberto will have satisfied your want for Tuscany...check out the popular sights piazzas and sights in the morning to avoid crowds. I felt this to be true more here than in any other city in IT.

2N Cinque Terre - either Vernazza or Manarola.. we did 2 and it was perf..

1N Milan.
----fly out next a.m.
Total of 13 nights

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Jeff has it right about Assisi! This will be my 13th year there for a music festival in July. 2 1/2 weeks in Paradise! All of start planning next year before we leave. Assisi is a place to experience not just something on a to do list.