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Please help! Booking train tickets.

Hi! I've been getting plenty of suggestions about which website I should book my train tickets from Milano Centrale Railway Station to Grindelwald Station. At this point, I am overwhelmed and we are travelling on 2nd Jan.

I will be travelling with my folks hence I would like to be extra sure and safe. We will be carrying about 5 big luggage.

From which website should I book my train tickets from Milan to Grindelwald? We are okay to change trains.

We intend to depart from Milan in the morning (about 8am) and stop over somewhere to sit and have lunch before continuing the train ride to Grindelwald. (we are not rushing for time as our check-in at Grindelwald is 6pm).

Thank you.

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Charlotte, thank you for suggesting the website for me! I will take a look at it. There are some changes in the trains in between. What if I miss the trains? Am I able to hop onto the next one?

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Badger, thank you! I tried to book however, it says this:

Your journey could not be booked. The train is already fully booked or has been cancelled due to engineering work.
You have the following options:

We recommend selecting another connection.

For connections with changes: It may be possible to complete the purchase if you split the booking into the individual legs.

Any idea how I'm able to book it?

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I would look at int.bahn.de for ticket information. You mentioned getting off the train, having lunch and re-boarding? You would have to buy tickets to the town you want to have lunch in, and then a separate ticket for the remainder of your journey.

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ElsieBumi1234,

Go to the Trenitalia website and buy tickets from Milano Centrale to Spiez, Switzerland. There's a 7:20am train that arrives in Spiez at 9:53am. From Spiez, there are trains to Grindelwald about 2 per hour so you can buy those tickets in the Spiez train station or you can buy them from Omio.

https://www.trenitalia.com/en.html

https://www.omio.com/

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Any idea how I'm able to book it?

If the train is sold out the answer is simple, you are not able to book it. Try another departure. But if you are planning to make a stop somewhere you should book it as two separate tickets. And the last ticket is probably easier to just buy at the station.

What you may be encountering is the closure of the Gotthard tunnel
under the alps. The tunnel was damaged and is expected to be closed
well into 2024. I'm not sure what they are doing to route around it
but it could explain the troubles you're having booking the standard
tickets.

That has nothing to do with it. Trains from Milan to Spiez/Bern don't use the Gotthard tunnel, they use the Lötschberg tunnel and the Simplon tunnel.

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Rachele, thank you for the suggestion! I tried to book but it led me to this:

We are sorry, but we cannot sell your requested journey online.
Please visit one of our DB travel centers, authorised DB travel agency or via phone: +49 6172 7613210 (standard fees for calls to the German landline network apply) daily from 00:00 to 24:00.
Alternatively, we are happy to offer you the Interrail Pass for the most flexible travel experience in Europe.

Looks like i have to purchase a pass, interrail one country pass or interrail global pass. Do I have to make a purchase if its just 1 way trip? As the passes minimum number of days is 3. Once I reach Grindelwald, I'll be there for a week and then head back to Zurich airport after.

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Hahn.de will not sell you tickets for Italy and Switzerland if they don”t involve passagecthru Germany.

If SBB says there is a problem with the train you want, it will not help to buy it from a 3D party. Hopefully someone knowledgeable about the Swiss and Italian trains, like Sam, will take a look and be able to suggest a solution.

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Marco, thank you for the suggestion! this looks doable and fuss free! Just wandering, there's a 6mins transfer time at interlaken ost. what if i missed the train? or is the train station just like opposite each other that i can easily change?

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Badger, thank you for clarifying! I believe it is sold out for this case. There are a few recommendations here so i'm sure to find a way.

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Just wandering, there's a 6mins transfer time at interlaken ost. what
if i missed the train?

You wait for the next one.

or is the train station just like opposite each other that i can
easily change?

Opposite each other? Interlaken Ost is one station. Interlaken West is another station, but if you get the suggestion to change from Interlaken Ost to Interlaken West or v.v. it is a pretty bad suggestion.

There are a few recommendations here so i'm sure to find a way.

To be honest there are also some pretty bad recommendations and you are making this way too complicated. I don't have time to write a long answer now, but here are some important points:

  1. If a train is sold out it means that it is sold out. Nothing you can do will change that. Not buying from another site or getting a Eurail pass or asking this forum.
  2. Find a departure that isn't sold out and buy the first part of the trip as soon as possible. The days around Christmas and New Year are popular travel days so demand is high.
  3. Avoid third party sites and buy the tickets from the company that actually operates the train, in this case SBB or Trenitalia.
  4. You really need to get a ticket across the border to you first stop in Switzerland. Once in Switzerland, seat reservations are not mandatory so the trains can not sell out and you can buy the next part of your journey at the station.
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yes, if you are near the doors and preferably near the ramp it can be done in 2 minutes. Just be sure to get on the half of the train for Grindelwald because the other half goes to Lauterbrunnen.

Are you "folks" fit or do they need more time? Yes you can get on the next train up the hill.

Be sure to wait for Interlaken Ost, Interlaken West is a couple of minutes first on the train across town.

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ElsieBumi1234,

The station at Interlaken Ost looks to be small and Omio says "Transfer within the station" so 6 minutes should be plenty of time. However, if you miss the train, you can just take the next one and there are two trains per hour so it's not much of a wait. I'm usually a worrier, but I wouldn't worry about this one.

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If a train is sold out it means that it is sold out. Nothing you can
do will change that. Not buying from another site or getting a Eurail
pass or asking this forum

If trains sold out regularly they would be useless. If you encounter a "sold out" when booking a train more than 48 hours in the future it is almost always simple a case of there being some obscure reason why a ticket cannot be sold. It is almost never because it is actually sold out. The systems just throw weird errors, because they are made by Europeans.

So which departure from Milan was it that you wanted to book? What time? It is possible that you tried to book the RE via Lugano, as there are no midday trains over the Simplon anymore, and these local trains can indeed not be booked on line.

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We did this transfer at Interlaken Ost to Lauterbrunnen or Grindelwald, or vice-versa, 4 times last summer. It is easy but you do have to go down the ramp or steps into the corridor under the tracks to change platforms.

The train from Spiez comes into Interlaken Ost at one of the higher-numbered platforms, like 5, 6, 7, or 8. The local train to Lauterbrunnen and Grindelwald (same train; they split it at an intermediate stop, Zweilütschinen) departs from Platform 2. For Grindelwald, you want section 2B—it is clearly marked on the platform. The 2A section of the platform is for Lauterbrunnen (and Wengen and Mürren). If memory serves, 2B is the back half of the train, but check the signs to confirm

Many of the people getting off the train at Interlaken Ost will be going to Platform 2 for Grindelwald and Lauterbrunnen. Some will be going on to Luzern, so they will want Platform 4. But everyone will need to go down the ramp or steps to the corridor under the tracks, so you can follow the crowd into that corridor, and then go up the ramp to Platform 2— you will be heading toward the station, if that helps.

If the train is crowded it can seem a bit confusing, but just remember you must go down to the corridor under the tracks, and then come up at Platform 2. Then check the signs for 2B. With parents and lots of luggage, you may be slower than others, but as long as you proceed directly to the platform you should make it. You may or may not get seats but it is a short journey if you have to stand. And if you do not make it, or the train is too crowded for you to board, there should be another along shortly. The trains departing Platform 2 only go to Grindelwald and Lauterbrunnen, and they are always the same—-2B for Grindelwald.

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I just had a look at the direct EC trains from Milano Centrale to Spiez. With older parents and luggage, you will want one of those so you do not have to change at Domodossola and/or Brig. when I hit th “buy” button for either the 7:20 or the 15:20 departure, I saw the message you did:”. There are no longer any tickets available for the connection you have selected.” However, they say there are alternatives, and if you press the d “show available alternatives” button, you will be offered the same connection schedule, using EC 50 for the early morning train, and EC 54 for the 15:20 train ( the original schedule does not show numbers for those two trains). And then you can go ahead and purchase.

I don’t know what this is all about—-maybe they put on extra EC trains when the original one filled up?

Note that the EC 50 train is less expensive and less crowded than the 15:20 EC 54, but that may be too early for your family (it would be for me).

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I don't know what is going on here, but I have just made a dummy booking on SBB on the 0720 train (both to Spiez and throughout to Grindelwald), and have no difficulty. Indeed it even tells me which seat numbers have been reserved on the Milan to Spiez leg.

It is not clear which website you or others are trying to book on but SBB has no difficulty with this booking on this day, at least for me.

I have also tried with Trenitalia, again with no problems. Likewise it allows me to choose seats and I can visibly see from the chart that there is available capacity.

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I was on SBB.ch, but as I said, I had no difficulty proceeding with the dummy booking once I bypassed that message about “no availability”.

Now when I go to SBB.ch there is an alert about a disruption of the Lötschberg Basistunnel, requiring EC and IC trains between Spiez and Brig to be diverted to the Kandersteg route, until at least 16 December. Maybe this will come through:

https://www.sbb.ch/en

But I don’t know if that accounts for the strange message about the 2 January trains. And now when I try the dummy booking abgain, the message no longer appears; it goes straight to booking for the 7:20 and 15:20 trains.

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Please. If you encounter errors when booking tell us:

  • What date
  • What time.

And be precise.

I can then look for you what is really going on. Because all trains being sold out is with a very high probability now what is going on.

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What may be going on is this:

  • With the new timetable there are no longer any mid-day trains from Milan to Switzerland over the Simplon route. This because RFI plans to do engineering works, and so has decided to close the line for several hours each workday for the next couple of years. Annoying but that is how the Italians do it.
  • If you plan a trip on the SBB planner it first looks up train times in the European train timetable. This timetable also contains times for local and suburban trains for example (and even every tram, metro and bus for some countries).
    • If you look up times for a departure for which the obvious route is not available it will try to find you a route anyway, and this route may involve local Italian trains.
    • In order to sell you a ticket for a local Italian train the system then needs to connect to the Italian system. And if this goes wrong, an unhelpful error is thrown.

SBB needs to improve this. It is however not a high priority for them.

One thing I will keep repeating: Normal trains do not sell out weeks in advance.
In Switzerland trains never, ever, ever "sell out".