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Pickpocket Encounters in Italian cities of Rome, Florence

Heads up to travelers about tactics that pickpockets are using in the train stations. This happened to us in Rome and in Florence. We were standing at the board looking to see if the platform for our next train had been posted when a very friendly woman walked up to us and asked if we needed help. We responded the first time it happened that no, we did not; we were just looking to see if the platform had been posted yet. She suggested that we follow her to another board and she would show us. Before we could hardly turn around, Trenitalia personnel swooped in and stepped between us and told us this was a pickpocket scam. They try to lead you away from the crowd to a secluded place. She took off quickly when the authorized personnel approached, although she did not leave the station as we saw her later trying the same thing with other travelers. From then on, when we were approached by these people who were not employees of Trenitalia, we responded with a very firm no and a stern look when they asked if we needed help.

As we were getting ready to board our train in Florence, there was a man trying to use a similar tactic by offering to help people find their particular carriage/car on the train. He went so far as to climb aboard the train. So, unfortunately, be very wary of friendly individuals who offer assistance-- don't be taken in by someone's "kindness" and offer to help. If you need help, seek out the information desk or uniformed employees!

Posted by
146 posts

Thank you for that information. I'm traveling solo to Italy in July and I'm a bit worried about the pickpockets. But I heard about it in Barcelona too and I was careful and had no issues. But it's good to know that those "friendly individuals" you encounter might be thieves.

Posted by
308 posts

This too happened to me at Termini in Rome. However it was right at the entrance. We just got out of our cab and I stopped after the entrance in the station to make sure I had everything. A woman approached me in a white polo and I think even a clipboard, maybe trying to look "official", and asked me if I needed help. I knew she was a scammer and to be honest she looked like a gypsy who was just wearing a white polo. I told her no thank you and she went on looking for her next victim.

Posted by
96 posts

This post makes me feel so badly. The several times I traveled in Italy, by myself, I had wonderful people, strangers, help me with directions, etc. I never once was approached by a "scammer". It is so awful that we have to be "on guard" in a country with such wonderful, kind and helpful people. But the scammers are entrenched there and we need to be on our guard. Sad.....

Posted by
693 posts

Nanc1930. At least in Italy you only have to be on guard for pickpockets. In tbe US you need to worry about people shooting you in church, at school, while watching a movie, at work etc etc.

Posted by
119 posts

In Rome at FCO, we were approached by "baggage handlers" that even when told "no we don't need help" grabbed our luggage, boarded the train and stowed it in one of the luggage racks. They then held out their hand, looking for money. I told them no once -- they insisted -- I gave them a more emphatic NO; then they finally left to go stalk out another victim. I don't understand why, since this is such an obvious problem, the authorities don't take a harder approach to this. You don't see this at the major travel terminals in the USA.

Posted by
7209 posts

Your first big indication it's a scam is when a Italian "official looking" train person comes to you and offers help voluntarily. That will never never NEVER happen in Italy. No real Italian Train official will EVER voluntarily ask you if you need help.

I've not been approached by a scammer (other than petition signers) in all of my years of traveling to Europe (including Italy). Maybe some people look more gullible.

Posted by
752 posts

I always have only one carry-on luggage with me, weighing 15 pounds total so I can hop on hop off trains in a flash. I can even hold it up with one hand for any hoisting.

The only time I got approached was at the long and slow ticket line at Termini. I had no luggage with me, and no purse. Just the usual neck wallet and money belt.

A young guy appeared on my right side, offered to show me how to use the ticket machines. I turned to say No when his eyes twinkled and his smile flashed. He spoke perfect English and assured me that I'd never have to stand in line again.

And I never have. Stood in line again.

Posted by
715 posts

EDoc,

They are dealing with this as it is my understanding that you now need a ticket to get on the platform at Termini. Also, Italy has much bigger problems to address then scammers trying to hustle a few euros from tourists. Just say no and stand your ground.

Posted by
11338 posts

JKC and all,

You do now need a ticket to have access to the platform to a Freccia train. They do not have this safeguard for the Regionale trains. This move at Termini, Firenze SMN and Milano Centrale (AFAIK only those three) prevents the erstwhile baggage handlers from "helping." I noticed almost as soon as this happened the scammers took up positions near the doors and offer their help. They do try to look efficient and professional.

Never underestimate the creativity of a crook. When a door closes a window opens.

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506 posts

We fell pray to this at the Rome Termini in May, this was our fourth time and we had first class tickets to Florence and this guy took up our luggage and tried to board our train to "help us", he looked like he worked there with a polo shirt and tried to be professional. So as far as needing a train ticket he seemed to be able to roam all the platforms without anyone looking at him twice. I cannot believe that we actually got caught up in that. I was absolutely shocked at how many scams were going on in Italy this trip. On two of our train rides we had one lady with a baby asking for money and I really was afraid that she was going to throw that baby down on us. And one woman locked herself in the train car bathroom and even the personal tried to get her out and she held on to the door until the train stopped and dashed off. And a young kid was going up and down the isle of the train we were on looking down at his cell phone and pacing back and forth and a local man with his family told us to watch our stuff and keep our wallets in our front pocket that they do this all the time on this train from Pisa to Florence.

Posted by
792 posts

this whole "pick pocket" conversation is over blown IMO. Secure your valuables. Be aware of your surroundings, and move on. Paranoia makes a bad trip.

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By starting this topic, I wasn't trying to make a big deal of it; I was simply trying to create awareness as to how the situation might present itself based on what we experienced so as to perhaps protect an inexperienced traveler from being taken advantage of. Knowledge is power.