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Pedestrians Beware

A trip in early June will be my first to Italy and I'll confess to feeling a bit nervous about crossing streets in Rome, given the local relationship between motor vehicles and people. I've read RS' description of it and heard from a few friends that its terrifying. :) Are there some best practices pedestrians would do well to observe? I realize I can only know by being there but please prepare me the best way you "experienced Rome-pedestrians" know how to. Thanks.

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8889 posts

My experience, in Italy do not make eye contact or otherwise look at the driver. If they think you have seen them, they will assume you will stop (or can be intimidated into stopping). They will not stop just because you are on a pedestrian crossing.
Instead, act as if you have not seen the oncoming vehicle. If the driver thinks you haven't seen him, he will have to stop.
Stand up for your rights as a pedestrian and do not be intimidated!

It is different in other countries, Italy is an exception.

Posted by
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Just viewed a Rick Steves DVD where he discussed crossing the streets in Naples. He suggested crossing "in the shadow (i.e. just behind)" of a local. Looked harrowing nonetheless. We'll be in Rome in May. Enjoy!

Posted by
13934 posts

Advice from Dimitri, my RS BOE guide....keep up the same pace. Don't go real slow but also don't hurry and don't run. And DON'T change your pace in the middle of the street. I noticed he walked the same pace whether crossing the street or walking down the sidewalk with the group. The motor scooters in particular will expect you to go the same pace and you are more likely to get hit if you speed up. I also try to shadow someone who looks like a confidant local.

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3941 posts

We would just wait til some locals started crossing and join them...remembering our first visit to Rome following a well-dressed lady across by Vittorio Emanuele monument - and her lovely high heeled shoe came off halfway across!! I think it got caught in a cobble.

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23267 posts

Our experience is to pick your spot - small break in traffic and go. Walk firmly and quickly but don't try to dodge the cars by stopping and starting. Then you are unpredictable. I don't think the Italians are particularly interested in hitting you because things get mess when they do. If walking quickly, predictable speed, straight line, they will do behind you. But if you suddenly stop in the middle of the street that is a problem because they don't know what you are going to do. Vespas will cut your close always behind so keep walking, don't stop. If Catholic, when you get to the curb, saying a blessing. Over the years we have spent about a month in Rome with no injuries. It becomes second nature.

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1994 posts

I don't really remember this being a challenge in Rome (although several visits to Cairo probably influence my impression of how bad is bad). If I'm having problems, I wait until there are a few nontourists and cross with them (were it not for this approach, I would probably still be standing on a corner in Tahrir Square in Cairo).

When possible, ducking into a subway station and coming out using the exit on the other side of the street also works.

Posted by
677 posts

that's so strange that you say don't look at the driver, cuz that's all I did when I lived there, if I knew there was enough space that they can stop, just walk in the street looking in their direction making sure they saw you....

it was hilarious though when my friends who were living in Granada came to Rome and I stepped into the street, they flipped OUT....

mainly make sure there is enough space for them to stop before you walk....

Posted by
11613 posts

Wait for a group of nuns in habits and cross with them, Italians are very superstitious.

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1825 posts

My wife and I were nervous about Rome after all the warnings. It turned out to be our favorite place once we experienced it for ourselves.

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23267 posts

Remember you are in Rome for the local culture and the experience of living like a local. Crossing the street is part of the culture.

Posted by
47 posts

I'm enthusiastically fine with experiencing culture. I'm also enthusiastic about self preservation. Thanks to all for the advise.

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10344 posts

I'd be interested in stats on how many N. American tourists are injured as pedestrians in Rome. Crossing major roads there is more scary than fatal, but I'll bet there have been some injuries. I use the method already mentioned above: cross with a group of locals.

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10188 posts

This changes the subject but IMHO the real dangerous places are where they drive on the right and we're looking left, or the bus lanes in Paris that go the opposite direction of the traffic on a one-way street, such as the Blvd. St. Michel. I almost got smashed in both places. Knowing where and how to look is an advantage.

Back to the subject: I don't blame you for being concerned, but if you latch onto a local until you get the hang of it as others have advised (especially Zoe and her nuns), you'll be the one giving others advice next time.

Posted by
15165 posts

Most Italian cities and towns, including Rome, have large portions of their historical centers closed to traffic (except for buses/taxi/local residents), other streets and piazze are totally pedestrianized and not even buses/taxis can go. Those areas are know as ZTL (Zona Traffico Limitato=Limited Traffic Zones).

So I think that as a pedestrian you will have no problems dealing with motor vehicle traffic. Actually you might have a harder time crossing the streets in your own city, especially if you live in places like NYC where you can be run over by a taxi cab very easily.

The hard part will be dealing with all the pedestrians. In June Rome is packed with millions of tourists on foot, so watch out for tourists' stampedes, especially when the women hear rumors of Italian shoe sale in some store somewhere. They will step on you like you are a door mat.

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10344 posts

Bets,
That's a good safety tip on Blvd St. Michel. In a few weeks, we'll be frequently walking on Blvd. St. Michel. Now I know what to watch out for.

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507 posts

Always at a pedestrian crossing I stopped traffic going one direction so my group could cross to the median. Then I did the same to traffic coming in the other direction so everyone could finish crossing. I did point at & look at the drivers in the cars.

No "near hits." The drivers were very polite.

I finished the stop on each side of the street with a "thank you" in sign language (fingers of R hand moving from chin out to palm up while smiling & saying "Gratzie").

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752 posts

Rome is not bad at all. Look all around and cross with others when you can. I know a gal who got hit by a motorcycle in Rome. She stayed six weeks in a Rome hospital with a broken leg. You just have to look all around.

Now Napoli is quite different, with motorcycles zipping next to you along narrow alleys and up on the sidewalks too. They're not supposed to, but they do. You need to perfect your 360 degree looksee there.

Rome is much more manageable. You will be OK.

Posted by
7737 posts

Walk on the right hand side of a local and you'll be fine. If the intersection is one with a light, just follow the lights. You'll find you won't have to cross many unsignaled intersections or crosswalks.

Posted by
47 posts

Grazie Quirite! I'm counting on the continued graciousness and patience of Rome's citizens. My wife and I will do our best to play by your rules.

Posted by
791 posts

I didn't find Rome to be all that bad considering the size of the city. If you want a real challenge try walking around in Palermo.

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My memory is a little spotty. I may have read it in RS, but I think it came to us from a Roman on our first trip in 1972: When crossing a street in Italy, align yourselves with (a) a beautiful woman, (b) a mother with a baby, or (c) a priest. Not so sure about (c) these days, but we have lived to tell the tale...knock wood.

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8942 posts

Not really sure that hand gesture from Colette means Thank you in Italy. Kind of think it means something else?

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8293 posts

I've always understood that gesture to mean something very, shall we say, direct. And not polite.

Posted by
677 posts

If I needed to express thanks (for not hitting me haha) I would just make eye contact with a smile and a nod and a grazie....

but the thank you in ASL, isn't it more from the mouth?

Posted by
53 posts

As Rick says, walk in the "shadow" of a Roman. If you do get hit at least he will cushion your impact.

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8293 posts

"..... not many Italians know American Sign Language." Not many Americans, Canadians, or Europeans know ASL either. Why would they be expected to know it?

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9363 posts

Yes, Katherine, it looks more like blowing a kiss - flat hand with fingers on the lips (not the chin), then moving outward so palm is up.

Posted by
96 posts

Yes, from the lips ..... I would NEVER use the chin/palm up sign. A little indelicate, to say the least :)))

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32746 posts

Maybe the drivers see the rude gesture along with a smile and figure that the person was confused and go on without starting a world incident.

I think the smile and smiling eyes overcome lots. Clearly she was trying to be polite.

Posted by
3098 posts

Perhaps the gesture is only rude coming from a man? Simply confusing when a woman means it as thank you?

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9363 posts

It's not a male-only gesture. Several sources show women making the gesture as well.