Paris to Venice - TGV Day Train or Thello Night Train?

We will be in Paris for 4 days and then will take a train to Venice and spend another 4 days there. We have allotted one day in between for travel. Are we better off: (A) Spending that middle day on the nice TGV day train through the French countryside and alps and then sleep in Turin or Milan (with some quick site seeing) before continuing on to Venice the next day; or (B) Spending a 5th day in Paris and then take the evening Thello sleeper train through to Venice? We are a family of four (two teenagers). Assume cost is not an issue for purposes of this question.

Posted by Roberto
Fremont, CA, USA
6707 posts

You are better off with (C), both time wise and money wise.

And (C) is:
FLY EASYJET from Paris to Venice. One hour and 40 minutes gate to gate for €50-75 each and you are done.

Posted by Michael
Seattle, WA, USA
6726 posts

Yep. Once again, Roberto is spot on. Don't waste all that time on the train. Fly.

Posted by cbrochu30
113 posts

Personally, I love train travel and prefer it to air. Others just want to get to where they are going as quickly as possible. If this is your first time in Europe I would vote day train in part so you can experience how good train travel can be and to see the countryside. The decision really is about your goals/priorities.

Posted by Mimi
Morrison, CO, USA
529 posts

I am with Roberto. I would much prefer spending the time on the ground in Venice, so we would fly. There are other places in France and Italy to take shorter trips on the train that will make you appreciate train travel.

Have a great trip!


Posted by Laurel
Rome, Italy
4068 posts

A day on the train can be a delightful break in your trip. To me it is a wonderful choice and the trains are marvelous. The night train, not so much, unless you (all) can sleep no matter what. It is VERY hard to sleep on a train.

Posted by Nigel
East Midlands, England
13890 posts

I very much agree with cbrochu30 and Laurel on this one.

I've not spoken favourably about night trains for some time.

To ride through the Alps is magical.

To get there quickly has advantages.

We'd need to know a lot more about you and the whole family and its dynamics to give the best answer.

Posted by Larry
Elk Grove, CA, USA
6890 posts

One item to note as you make your decision is that if you are considering a Eurail pass, Thello will not accept it unless they have changed their policy recently.

Posted by Darlene
38 posts

Fly or take the day train. We took the night train last year Venice-Paris and it was awful. No A/C, dining room a joke, crowded, nothing to recommend it at all. Anything would be better than the night train run by Thello.

Posted by spowers
3 posts

Thanks everyone - your comments have really helped us think this through. The point about flying being faster and getting us more time in Venice is a fair one and appeals to me personally. But I think we are leaning toward the day train option. After 4 days of concrete and museums, etc. in Paris, we think a little down time on a train (i.e., reading time for parents; screen time for teenagers) might feel just right. Plus we will expose our kids to European train travel, see the countryside and alps views along the way, and add a short stay in Milan. We will get into Milan at about 3pm, which will allow for an evening and the next morning to "sample" Milan before we finish the trip to Venice.

Posted by Larry
Elk Grove, CA, USA
6890 posts

Nice plan. A night in Milan is just fine. Just note that the French TGV arrives at the Milano Porto Garibaldi train station and you will want to depart for Venice from the Milano Centrale station. The two train stations are about 1.5 miles apart. There is public transportation but a short taxi ride may be easier.

Posted by Christi
Whitsett, TX, United States
892 posts

The only thing I can add is to book sooner and reserve 4 seats with the table in between. The table comes in handy on a 7 hr trip. Oh- be sure & pack snacks. Here is a link to the TGV Cafe menu - t is in French but you will get an idea of what is available.

Enjoy the trip - we love the down time a long train ride provides.