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Orvieto to Rome train timetable

Looking at the timetable for Wednesday, April 19th. I see trains that leave at 8:12 (1:10 hour trip), 8:59 (2:15 hour trip), 11:20 (1:28 hour trip) and on. We are interested in departing that morning - dropping off our rental car and buying our train tickets and hopping on the train. RS 2016 says that the trains depart roughly every hour; are there going to be any more trains added to this schedule or is this all we're going to see? If these are indeed all our options for that morning, I will want to check with AutoEurope to see if we can drop our car off before anyone is at the station (not sure if that is acceptable in Italy like it is here, we will have full coverage) OR change our drop off to the night before which makes it a little inconvenient to get back and forth from our B&B. I don't want to take a 2:15 hour trip when I could have a 1:10 for not too much earlier in the morning.

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The 8:12 train is a Euro Night train and it shows "not available for sale" on the Trenitalia website. It is the tail end of the Munich-Rome night train operated by OEBB. You might get a ticket at the station. I don't know. But Trenitalia might forbid this because they would lose revenue on the trains that they operate.

The 8:59 is a Regionale Veloce oddly takes over an hour to get from Orte to Rome. Other Regionale Veloce trains do it in 44 minutes, so I am mystified why this train takes an extra 20 minutes to cover that distance. There are no other stops. Also note that this train does not go to Termini, but to Tiburtina. So if you are transferring to a hotel elsewhere in Rome by taxi or Metro, that should not be a problem.

The 11:20 Regionale Veloce does go to Termini, makes the same stops, but does it in 1 hour and 28 minutes.

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You may buy tickets in town at a travel agency and get your questions answered there. We did not have a car, but got to Roma Termini in plenty of time by taking an early morning train. We arranged for a taxi to take us down to the train.

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You are looking at Trenitalia, not Rail Europe, right?

Often Regionale trains don't show up until a few days before. Look at the same day of the week this week for a full schedule.

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There are 2 earlier trains but the car rental probably won't be open (maybe you can drop off if closed?) The schedule you found is the same that is available this week. We've done this several times in reverse (Rome to Orvieto) and I'm doing it again in 2 weeks.

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Those are the same departure times I saw when I checked the timetable (I'm making the same trip a couple of weeks after you) on Trainline.eu. Except for when I looked, it showed the 8:59 as taking 1h 50 minutes (not a big difference, but 20 minutes less does help a little bit).

Also, note that the 8:59 goes into Tiburtina, while the 11:20 goes into Termini (according to how I read the schedule). (Of course you can take the metro from Tiburtina to Termini.)

There's also a 12:10 InterCity that gets you to Rome in only 1h 7 minutes (to Tiburtina).

But I see what you mean about RS giving the indication that there are trains roughly every hour, when that's clearly not the case in this timeframe.

Nigel's recommendation to check for times this coming week (i.e. Wednesday next) is a good one.

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Yes the 8:12 takes 1 hour and 50 minutes, but if you ask the trenitalia trip planner to go to Termini, it will add about 25 minutes to this time to get from Tiburtina to Termini with the local train, which they do not sell. You could do it in 15 minutes on the Metro.

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I contacted our B&B who confirms that our train choices are at 7:31, 8:12, and 11:20. I need to talk with AutoEurope to see what our options are for dropping the car off early...RS should be editing the book to not suggest hourly trains because it's not quite that simple! Definitely complicates things for us a bit but we'll get it figured out.

And yes, I was looking at Trenitalia.

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What happened to 8:59?
In all fairness to Rick, if you look at the schedule, it is pretty much approximately 1 train every hour EXCEPT that one little hole around 10:00 am. If some one asked me, Id say yes about 1 train per hour. I see that a lot in Italian schedules that run about 1 train per hour. They all seem to have a gap in late morning. Lunch break?

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Sam, Trenitalia still shows the 8:59 train but our B&B didn't give it as a option - it is a train that goes to Tiburtina first and then Termini. Not sure why she didn't list it.

Autoeurope confirmed that this Hertz station does NOT offer out-of-hours drop-offs, so that is not an option for us.

Hertz opens up at 8:30 - do you think if we got there around 8:15 we could get the car dropped off in time to catch the 8:59 train? My husband is fine if we catch the 11:20 as well so either way one will work for us. I'm just glad to have it thought out ahead of time so we aren't sitting at the train station twiddling our thumbs waiting for the train when we could be elsewhere.

Maybe they're having a late breakfast :)

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Yes, if your not in a big hurry. Also keep in mind your new rooms will not be ready for check-in early in the morning, but if you arrive after 1 pm, there is a chance they will be ready.

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Often Regionale trains don't show up until a few days before.

Sorry, but this is wrong and it is not a good advice.

Regional trains schedules are displayed on trenitalia.com up to the next timetable changes of June and December and can be purchased on-line up to 120 days in advance (but not after the next timetable change).

Adding a regional train on a different day than the date used by all european railway companies to change their schedules is quite complicate. Especially on tracks used also by foreign operators like OEBB. It's like throwing a big stone into a pond: It can be done, but consequences go far and it's a real pain for everybody. The Swiss start moaning and running like headless chickens every time we do it.

More, regional trains are subsidized by regional governments: there must be a real, big hole in the schedules and big protests by voting commuters to make them spend more money than what they had budgeted for the following 6 months.

Saying travellers that it happens "often" only makes planning more complicate as it happens quite rarely.

Lunch break?

Italians have lunch between 12:30 and 13:30. Late breakfasts are unheard of out of the tourists path.

That hole is simply explained if you think at who actually pays for those trains: all kids enter schools before 9 and 99% of commuters start working before 10:30. The first Lessons for college students are always at 8 am.

Regional trains cost, no Region would pay for a morning train that wouldn't be used by students and workers. Tourists do not vote and, after all, they are on holiday.

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Thanks darioalb, for explaining that. I've often wondered about that "hole", which seems ubiquitous.

On another thread, I was musing about the reasons many Americans have recently complained that their credit cards have been rejected at train and public transport kiosks. My speculation was that nowadays, people are getting "super rewards" cards and are getting a rebate back of 2% to 3% on their purchases, and the payees have had to swallow it. Restaurants and retail merchants can handle that, but public transport entities that are subsidized by taxpayers seem to be putting their foot down on what could be seen as giving a discount to foreigners. So they could be blocking the transactions.

So the next time you board a Regionale, say "Thank you" to the Italian taxpayers.

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Darioalb, thank you for the insight to the trains. Very educational and makes so much sense!

Sam, I've missed the other thread but we do pay most of our way with cash when we travel. Seems like cash is king and is appreciated. Also easy to leave exact change versus waiting for our card to come back.

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Nothing wrong with credit cards. My last trip I came to the conclusion is that it is a better deal for me. CapitalOne has no transaction fees, but when I pull cash from an ATM, it costs me 1 % Visa fee. So if they take credit cards, I use 'em.

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I've never sat and done the math. Sounds like I might need to!

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If I were you I would go at 11:20. No stress with returning rental car. They open at 8:30. We have similar problem and don't have a choice because we need to catch our plane in Rome so we have to take 8:59 train. We will have to talk to people in Orvieto rental to be sure that we will have enough time to return the car and catch the train.