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Venetian restaurant serving mixed seafood grill in Venice, with outdoor seating?

We are taking our son and his family (two 11-year-old boys) to Switzerland and the Dolomites in September, ending the trip in Venice. They have never been to Venice, but my husband and I have spent a lot of time there, so I want to show them “our Venice”. But we so seldom go out to restaurants when there, preferring to cook that wonderful seafood in our apartment, so we don’t have a favorite restaurant for our “last night” dinner. I am looking to the forum for help.

The twins are adventurous eaters, and would love to have a platter of mixed seafood from the grill, especially with strange crustaceans presented whole. My husband and I enjoyed this 20 years ago at a small place in Cannaregio that was in Rick’s 2002 Venice guidebook—the one with the “Christmas tree lights”—but I cannot find it now. And 10 years ago we shared a decent grilled seafood platter at Taverna San Trovaso in Dorsoduro, up the Riva from the gondola workshop. The taverna is still there, but they do not have outside seating, and that is important for my husband because he cannot hear conversation in a noisy restaurant.

So this is my quest—recommendations for a trattoria, Osteria, or ristorante on a little campo, with nice ambiance and outdoor seating, that serves a good version of this dish; preferably in San Polo, Santa Croce, or Dorsoduro.

I have found a candidate named La Patatina a San Giacomo in terms of ambiance and location ( Campo San Giacomo da l’Orio, my favorite campo), but I cannot find a menu online anywhere. So I would welcome other suggestions.

While I have read some good reviews of Paradiso Perduto in Cannaregio, it appears it is very noisy and a bit rowdy, so not what we seek.

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We usually avoid canal side places in Venice as they are usually overpriced and under quality. There is an exception, however. You might try Trattoria Da Giorgia ai Greci. It is on a back street close to San Marco, but an easy walk to get away from the crowds. The food is really great. If you are in the Rialto Bridge area, consider Trattoria Da Marco Valla Fava on Calle Stagneri. Most of the seating is inside, but they do have some seating outside. They have some of the best sea food ever!! And lots of strange crustaceans. The place has been around at least 50 years so they must be doing it right. You should be able to check out the locations, (we can help if needed) and menus on Google.

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Thank you so much! I know both locations well. We stopped in a canalside bar near the da Greci bridge last March and watched some kind of interaction between the gondoliers and the police—quite interesting.

We spent the month of October 2013 in an apartment above tiny Campo San Lio, very close to the da Marco Valle Fava trattoria. Their menu looks excellent, and they do indeed have the right mixed grill with crustaceans, actually naming them. This is the only one I have seen—most menus say “pesce” for the mixed grill, which means fish only.

We will be heading to dinner after a visit to the rooftop terrace at Fondaco di Tedeschi, so the location is perfect. My oly reservation is about the outside seating, as the website does not hav photos of that, and I no she space on Satellite View. If they have a few tables aside the building on the sidewalk, there is often not enough room for a table for 6. Do you recall the situation?

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Lola-it looks like they have outdoor seating in the small piazza in back of the restaurant-da Mario alla Fava. Street name is Calle Galeazza. Think I’ll be adding this restaurant to our Venice list. Thanks.

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SJS is correct. The outside tables are in a small courtyard -- not on a sidwalk at the main entrance. I'm not positive, but I seem to remember they did have tables for four, so perhaps they can accomodate a party of six. A quick email will probably clarify the seating arrangments.

Edit: Just did a search on Google Maps and found this link with photos that indicate tables for six or more.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ristorante+da+Mario+alla+Fava/@45.437206,12.337281,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipOlc_GoeGDA0_lFO0fMiBxamqMScgjhxUNvexCw!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipOlc_GoeGDA0_lFO0fMiBxamqMScgjhxUNvexCw%3Dw298-h298-k-no!7i500!8i500!4m12!1m2!2m1!1sCalle+Galeazza,+Venice,+Metropolitan+City+of+Venice,+Italy!3m8!1s0x477eb1da2a668245:0xcad7d0ace78b1fde!8m2!3d45.437206!4d12.337281!10e5!14m1!1BCgIYIg!16s%2Fg%2F1tfzwb50?entry=ttu

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Taverna da Baffo might work for you: https://www.tavernadabaffo.com/home/

Our family of 6 ate there in June. They have outdoor seating in a little patio area on a canal. The menu has a large variety. Pasta and bread are homemade.

I had to try various methods to make a reservation. Finally they responded via Instagram.

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La Calcina Hotel at 780 Zattere has a lovely outdoor restaurant built over the Giudecca Canal. The photos show a seafood platter……ate there once some years ago and was happy with the experience.

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Thank you both for the suggestions.

We enjoyed a 5-night stay at La Calcina on on our honeymoon 20:years ago, but the floating restaurant was not open as it was too early. Last September I noticed it was open, and it looks very inviting. I did check their menu there befor Inposted my question. Unfortunately the seafood platter in the photo is not grilled but traditional Venetian “Fritto misto” or mixed fried seafood, generally calamari and small shrimps. And that is not on the sample “seasonal menu” they offer online, but of course that can change.

https://www.lacalcina.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/RIAPERTURA-MAGGIO-2020.pdf

Suki, we had a very disappointing dinner with friends at Vini da Giglio 10 years ago, and I am sure my husband cannot be persuaded to return. But I did check the menu, and the only grilled seafood on the current menu is Piovra (octopus) in the antipasti section, and Anguilla (eel) among the Secondi. No big crustaceans.

https://vinidagigio.it/menu/

I want everyone to know that I really appreciate the suggestions, even if I have to reject them. This is a very specific quest, and I do have a couple of leads above, which I will pursue. I hope others are having as much fun with this challenge as I am!

But the big weird crustaceans which seemed to be fairly common on menus 20 years ago seem far less common now, and I have to wonder if they are becoming scarce, a victim of overfishing or water that is too warm. In which case we shouldn’t be eating them any more. I am trying to recall if we even saw any at the Rialto market last March, when we went to buy our usual sardines and swordfish to grill for dinner. I didn’t actually look for them, and may have missed them in the display case, but I know they were not there in the quantities we saw 20 years ago, when we photographed big piles of them, and even made videos because they were alive and moving about.