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Meal Timing Cultural Question (going to Venice / Verona / Italian Dolomites)

Hi all,

Quick culture question...what times are restaurants open for lunch and dinner and do they stay open between those two times? I have read that Italians eat dinner late (I consider it late, as we eat, with our young kids around 6pm).

I'll have kids (youngest is 6) on our trip and am hoping to have just one large meal a day, about mid to late-day, but don't want to impact the times for sight seeing.

Is it feasible to plan on a large lunch or dinner meal between the hours of 4pm and 6pm?

Many thanks in advance for your knowledge!

Melissa

Posted by
1025 posts

Although it will be different in smaller towns, you can generally eat any time of the day in larger towns and cities, including Verona and Venice. There are cafes and tavole called, or "hot tables," more like a cafeteria. Also, pizzerias in many areas are open throughout the day. Restaurants in the more "touristy" places will be open longer hours to accommodate foreigners.

However, the more traditional restaurants tend to be open during the lunch hour--noon until about 2:30--and the dinner hours, which generally begin around 7:00 p.m., and continue until late. This is where the better dining experiences will be had, and it seems to me that traditional dining is a real part of the cultural experience. Consider: Your internal clocks will be all messed up anyway due to the jet lag. Why not eat when the locals eat, where the locals eat? Your children will love the experience of eating outside AFTER the sun has gone down (mine did) even though the meals generally lasted past their bedtimes. Another consideration is that many places close for the lunch hour and reopen later in the afternoon. Adjust your rhythm to coincide with the local rhythms. You'll become a local for a time.

Posted by
11613 posts

You will be able to find places open from 4-6, but I agree that it would be better to observe local custom. Get your kids a panino or slice of pizza as a light lunch with a gelato break in late afternoon to tide them over if you don't want two sit-down meals.

In the Dolomites, you will have better luck with earlier dining hours, say lunch at noon and dinner at six.

Posted by
473 posts

At our hotel in Selva Val Gardena dinner was served after 7. Plan on a late afternoon snack.

Posted by
16219 posts

A regular restaurant will be open 12-3 for lunch, and 7-late night for dinner. They would be closed in between those hours.
Italians typically start lunch more or less between 1p and 2p, and start dinner after 7:30p in the north and after 9 in Rome and the south. Florence after 8-8:30p, typically.

If you are hungry outside regular restaurant opening hours, there are snack bars, pizzerie that sell pizza by the slice, delicatessens. So there are plenty of opportunities for a snack. It would be very unusual to find a regular restaurant open for dinner between 4 and 6. If a regular restaurant serves dinner between 4 and 6, it's a tourist trap in areas with lots of foreign tourists. I don't touch those restaurants with a ten foot pole. Outside of large tourist cities I know of no regular restaurants that would be open in the afternoon.

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3812 posts

I don't touch those restaurants with a ten foot pole.

Neither do I.

Edit to avoid further misunderstandings.

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16219 posts

È lo stesso in America se non vai nei grandi ristoranti, spesso di grandi gruppi societari, che sanno gestire i turni ed hanno una preparazione professionale migliore nella gestione di grandi ristoranti. E a volte ti avvelenano pure lì.

Posted by
388 posts

Thank you for your thoughts! To follow up:

Would it make sense to get cicheti sorta at the end of lunch hour at Trattoria e Bacaro da Fiore? I read this is a good place. Too touristy? Will I get salmonella? ;)

Also looking to try Trattoria al Gatto Nero on Burano.

Thanks!

Melissa

Posted by
34283 posts

Will I get salmonella?

Is that some sort of joke?

Posted by
388 posts

Yes, based on an Italian conversation that I couldn't read/understand but that clearly has "salmonella" mentioned. ;)

Posted by
11841 posts

Trattoria al Gatto Nero is supposed to be lovely....A little high for our budget but go for it if you are able! We have enjoyed Ristorante al Vecio Pipa on Burano a couple of times.

Posted by
16721 posts

Please don't worry about salmonella. You've no bigger chance of ingesting that in Italy than you do in the U.S. Just because a cafe might be open during hours that others may not doesn't mean you're going to have food that will be bad or make you sick. I speak from experience as an early-dinner eater: we haven't gotten sick ONCE from an early meal when those have been available. I just can't tell you how many of those there will be in the locations you'll be going.

I also get it that a 6 year-old that's been sightseeing all day may be good and DONE before normal Italian dinner hour. Small children often can't just shift routines like adults can.

A little hint? Anytime you run into Italian text that you don't understand, pull up Google or Bing translate...

https://translate.google.com

https://www.bing.com/translator

...copy/paste the text into the lefthand box, and have it auto-translate into English. It probably won't do it perfectly but well enough to get the gist of the content. :O)

Posted by
16219 posts

Dario, who lives in Piedmont and I understand from previous posts is familiar with the restaurant industry (not sure if he owns one), was simply saying that Italian restaurants do major deep cleaning every day during closing hours and wouldn't trust restaurants that never close, because it means they don't clean up, so he'd be afraid to get salmonella.

See, sometimes basing other languages' understanding on sporadic words may lead to significant misunderstandings.

Posted by
3812 posts

Just a waiter for maaaaany years.

Thank God I was never infected by the notorious "I want my place" virus and when I decided I was sick of chefs, sous chefs, owners, sommeliers and their neverending fights on the traditional Norma Pasta... I just escaped to northern Italy and went back to college.

As a rule of thumb, don't take too seriously Italian phrases beginning with "col cavolo"; it may be translated as "I'd rather eat a cabbage" meaning "no way" or "heck", but in Italian it gives a funny flavour to the all sentence.

We are obsessed with food, aren't we?

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16721 posts

As a rule of thumb, don't take too seriously Italian phrases beginning
with "col cavolo"; it may be translated as "I'd rather eat a cabbage"
meaning "no way" or "heck", but in Italian it gives a funny flavour to
the all sentence.

Spot-on there, Dario! Gave me a good chuckle. :O)