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Itinerary Help!

First time to Italy with mom, boyfriend and 9 year old son. Flying into Venice, flying out of Rome in November. We have 16 nights total. Were going to stay 4 nights each but thanks to "forum experts" we have changed to stay 5 nights in Rome. Now we need help figuring out which city to take a night from and also what we should do in each city.

We are doing Venice, Florence, Sorrento, and Rome last.
Not sure which of the three other cities to take a night from?
Also not sure if it should be Sorrento that we stay in or Naples?
With it being November, should we visit the Amalfi coast or Isle of Capri or Positano?

What we know we want to do for sure:
Venice: Gondola ride, Murano and Burano plus various sites
Florence: Day trip to Ponte Bugganiese and then various sites
Sorrento/Naples area: Pompeii, Mt. Vesuvius, and Herculaneum

PLEASE suggestions for our trip would be GREAT! Thanks in advance!

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Sorrento is sticking out like a sore thumb mainly because it is south of Rome and your other sites are north. I like Sorrento but it is seaside town and you are going in November. Storms can hit the coast then, and it could be wet, not really the weather for doing the Amalfi coast. You could stay two nights in Naples, and do the Pompeii and Herculaneum visits easily in a day. Mt Vesuvius may well be covered in cloud dependant on the weather but could be done in half a day before getting the train back to Rome. Dinner one night could be at one of the classic pizzerias in Naples.

You don't say how you are traveling between Venice, Florence etc. I am assuming you will take the train.

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Stay 3 nights in Sorrento. Easy to get to Pompeii and Herculaneum and gives you access to do a day trip along the AC

Weather records from Nov 2016 show Sorrento/Positano area had highs in the mid 60s for the 1st 3 weeks of the month

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This all depends on what YOU all want to do in each city. You mentioned what you want to do for sure. Based on what you've listed for Florence, it doesn't seem like you're as interested in Florence, and that's ok. Florence is a mecca if you like or love Renaissance art and/or history, but if that's not your thing, this is where you should cut a day (or more). This trip is for the three of you, and your interests. I assume there' s family connection in Ponte Bugganiese; what about spending the night somewhere in that region, instead of Florence?

The thing about the weather in November is that it could be great, sunny all day and just a little cooler. Or it could be cloudy or rainy every day. And unlike a city, where you have plenty of indoor option if the weather is unfriendly, obviously Pompeii, Herculaneum and Mt. Vesuvius are all outdoors. The way I view it, outdoor locations are just more risky (in terms of weather) at certain times of the year.

Don't forget when making your plans to include travel time between your destinations. It's a good rule of thumb to say that changing locations takes about 1/2 day each time, between packing, unpacking, checking in and out, getting to the train station, etc.

Enjoy your trip!

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You could stay in Salerno instead of Sorrento. Excellent train service, buses to Pompeii and Herculaneum are easy, too. Salerno is also close to Paestum.

I agree, cut a day from Firenze and perhaps one from Venezia as well. Nothing wrong with three nights in each of these.

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Keep Sorrento. I went in winter, visited Herculaneum in the rain and still loved it. Bits of Pompeii would be a little hard to walk if it's wet. On a sunny day, take the bus to the Amalfi Coast and enjoy the views and the towns in off-season. You'll want to spend 2-3 hours at the Archaeological Museum in Naples, a reasonable day trip from Sorrento, and there is more to see, even if it's raining.

So it will have to be a day less in Venice or in Florence. Venice is my favorite city in Italy. Inexplicably, not everyone loves it. You won't know until you're there. Florence is the place for Renaissance painting, sculpture and architecture. If that turns you on, 3 days is barely enough. For a young boy, I think Venice would be more interesting. Also, instead of a gondola ride, look into a rowing lesson. Kids usually get into that more.

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Thank you all for the responses!

To answer the questions, we plan on taking the train to and from all of our cities. Yes, Ponte Bugganiese is where my boyfriend's family came from so were hoping to make a day trip over there. But as suggested, possibly stay the night in this city? We chose Pompeii etc because that is the one thing my little boy wants to do more than any other thing. Plus, we live where it rains 10 months out of the year so the rain, winds, and chilliness will be just like home. LOL Oh, and I havent researched much about Florence yet which is why I listed to little. I am still in the process of just getting accommodations, then will look further into things to do and places to see.

So, Sorrento is just fine to stay instead of Naples? I have read many "bad" things about Naples and thought Sorrento might be better for us? But, it looks as if we would have to take a different form of transportation to get to Sorrento etc. Not a big deal or is it?

Do you all know where the best area to stay in Venice, Florence, Ponte Bugganiese, and Sorrento would be? I already got Rome accommodations right smack in the middle of all the sights and would like to do the same for the others if possible.

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We did a similar trip last year, though with a few more days we stayed in both Naples and Sorrento. One note first: if you plan to do Pompeii and Herculaneum, a visit to the National Archeological Museum in Naples is strongly recommended. Most of the best mosaics and artwork have been relocated there, so it really adds to the experience.

If I had to choose a city to take a day from between Venice, Florence and Rome, Florence would be the choice. Not an easy choice, mind you. Venice needs time to take in, especially to enjoy the best times of morning and evening/night when the cruise crowds are gone, and Rome is endless. You could take months there and still be finding more to do.

We only stayed in Naples for two days, and Sorrento for three. Each had their positives, though I think a lot depends on how comfortable you are with urban congestion and less polished cities. We came to Naples first after Florence, and it was quite a culture shift! After the squeaky clean, spacious, pedestrian-friendly streets of Florence, the cramped chaos of Naples took a bit of getting used to. Sorrento, by comparison, was peaceful and beautiful, but also felt a bit bland after the intensity of the big city.

Both offer easy access to the archeological sites of Herculaneum and Pompeii via the Circumvesuviana train, though we found the area around the Neapolitan end to be definitely in one of the scruffier parts of town. We did those sights from Sorrento, so the train station was an easy walk from our accommodation, but I'm not sure if you want to stay close to the station in Naples. Maybe others can comment on that, but it may mean a taxi or bus ride each way.

(One word of warning about the Circumvesuviana: it is as full of pickpockets as advertised and then some. We saw very little of that elsewhere (even in Rome), but it's definitely a magnet for opportunistic non-violent thieves. It can also be quite crowded, depending on the time of day, as it's mostly used as a commuter train for the locals. This means that traveling with luggage can be a struggle, as managing to keep a hand on things in the crush of people is challenging. Definitely not impossible, especially if you pack as lightly as recommended, but stressful for some. This can be made much simpler if you can travel with luggage early on weekends, as the train is all but deserted then.)

Choose Naples if: You like adventure, aren't bothered by traffic and crowds, want a less touristy experience, and love food (oh, man, the food: pizza, baba, sfogliatelle, seafood, the list goes on - best food we had in a country full of amazing food).

Choose Sorrento if: you like peace and quiet, prefer views over urban intensity, want better access to the rest of the Amalfi Coast, and are nervous about theft.

If it means anything, the biggest regret of our trip is that we didn't spend enough time in Naples. It's definitely an intimidating place if you're not used to that level of urban crush (for comparison, we found Rome quite relaxed and calm), but once you get used to the rhythm of the traffic and the closeness of the streets, it is a city full of depth and surprises. We stayed near the Spaccanapoli, and walked pretty much everywhere (including the waterfront and the Archeological Museum). Of all the places we went, we felt like we missed the most in Naples.

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Wow, gmazza, thank you so much! That gives me a GREAT picture of what to plan on/expect as far as Naples and Sorrento. Will be extremely helpful in the planning of it all!!!

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There are a couple if hotels near the train station in Napoli but I prefer staying at the Piazza del Plebescito or Chiania areas. If you can get a view of the bay in Napoli it can be very relaxing after a day of big, busy city touring.

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There's not really any poor place to stay in Venice as long as you are on the island, not in Mestre. The city is small so you are never very far from anything there. Rooms in Canareggio and Dorsoduro tend to be lower prices than others.

If you are in the historic center of Florence, you'll be walking distance to the train station and almost all the sights.

In Sorrento (much better place of you than Naples) stay in the historic center, not near the water. It's a 5-10 minute walk uphill from the main piazza to the train station. I wouldn't worry about the Circumvesuviana in November. Unless you are traveling from Naples in rush hour, I wouldn't expect it to be at all crowded. And you are likely to be wearing coats, so pickpocketing is more difficult. Just keep an eye out and take normal precautions.

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...we plan on taking the train to and from all of our cities.

Worth the mention, probably, that you can't get to Ponte Bugganiese by train. Looks to me like you'll need to take either a bus or train to Montecatini Terme and a bus from there. Train schedules to Montecatini Terme can be explored on the Trenitalia website, and these look to be bus schedules from both Florence to Montecatini Terme, and Montecatini Terme to Ponte Bugganiese (from http://www.blubus.it/indice-linee%20invernali.html):

http://www.blubus.it/Invernale/IQ_106.pdf

http://www.blubus.it/Invernale/IQ_108.pdf

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This is all SOOO very helpful and I am quite confident that I can plan the rest of the accommodations based on this info! Really appreciate it!