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Itinerary Check - 11 days North and Central Italy

Hi all,

I'm looking for some thoughts to see if this makes sense. Initially our idea of a dream trip was to include Rome and Salerno/Amalfi/Capri area but the budget and the timeline won't allow for the this time around so now we're considering this shortened, more budget friendly itinerary instead. We have decided we will do Rome + South on a later trip. "We" are myself, 30, and my Mom and favourite travel buddy, who's 60th birthday is in March. She mentioned several years ago how her dream would be to go to Italy for her 60th and well, we weren't sure it would be possible anymore but we are painfully aware of how short life is, 60 only happens once etc..so we are pretty set on making it happen, even if it's a different trip than we had initially planned on.

Given that, planning time is short (seems to be a trend for me lately) so I need your help please.

A few things to note:

  • I've been to Florence before, Mom has not
  • We're not huge art or museum lovers
  • We're most interested in memorable experiences, food, exploring new cities
  • We've previously travelled slow (10 days in London + 2 day trips) and fast (8 days in Dublin/Galway/Belfast) and thoroughly enjoyed both experiences because we set appropriate expectations beforehand
  • We are budget conscious travellers in terms of hotels and restaurant choices, but often splurge on memorable experiences (tours, classes, excursions etc).

With all that said, here's the new plan (tentatively mid March) flying into Venice and out of Milan:

  • **4 nights Venice including 1 day for Murano/Burano/Torcello
  • 4 nights Florence, including minimum 1 day trip (maybe 2?) to Tuscan hill town, and one afternoon for a 3hr cooking class
  • 2 nights Bologna, including 1 day for food tour of parmigiano reggiano factory and possibly parma ham, balsamic vinegar etc. Food will be a big part of these days
  • 1 night (last night) in Milan, primarily for the flight home, but also to see the Duomo and ideally the Last Supper (although I know that tickets are tough)**

How does this sound? We're trying to avoid moving around excessively while also seeing several places. We've found that we do well when we combine a sort of "go, go, go" pace with some opportunities to soak it all in as well. We will not have a car so everything will be by train and/or bus. Typically jet lag hasn't been much of an issue for us either. Finally, we have learned that our preferences are different than perhaps the majority, and so what may be considered a terrible idea by many here is actually a good fit for us (latest example was the Cliffs of Moher + Aran Islands day trip from Galway - it was perfect for us but ill advised).

I hope I've given enough background info for any and all advice on putting this together quickly, or if there's a better option given our preferences.

Thanks so much!

PQ

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755 posts

It is interesting that you would choose to spend four nights in Florence if you have been there already and neither one of you enjoy art or museums particularly, since that is what Florence is all about. Staying there would make it easier to do day trips though and you could visit several towns using public transportation in Tuscany, Umbria, and the Chianti region.
Sounds like a great trip!

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306 posts

I would second deleting time in Florence in favor of time in a smaller surrounding town such as Sienna or Lucca. They are magic in the evenings once the tour bus crowds have left.

Posted by
3101 posts

You've planned a great trip. I'm so glad you aren't shortchanging Venice.

If you're looking for an inexpensive B&B in Venice, I recommend B&B Corte Campana. Not fancy, but the owners are lovely. It's close to San Marco, but quiet, down a small alley. I stayed there for 4 nights in September.

Enjoy! and Happy Birthday to Mom.

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249 posts

Hi all,

Thanks for the replies so far.

There's a few reasons Florence has been given 4 nights:

  1. I was there for 2 days when I was 16 years old, and in the 5 hours of free time I was given to just wander, I completely fell head over heels in love with the city. I've long since talked about the city with my Mom and how I'd love to show her it too. There was something about the wide open cobble stone streets, the vendors on the sidewalk and the smell of leather in the air that just made me enamoured with the place.
  2. I'm trying to avoid hotel hopping too much so I was hoping to use it as a base for a couple day trips. I haven't fully looked into our options just yet, but Siena and Lucca are definitely both on the list, in addition to San G. Depending on timing I might try to squeeze in some time in Pisa for my mom (I've already been).
  3. I've booked a guesthouse (refundable) near the train station so day trips would be easy from that starting point.
  4. I envision us exploring the Oltrarno area, soaking in the Duomo in all it's glory, Ponte Vecchio, popping into Accademia, fully enjoying Mercato Centrale and the outdoor San Lorenzo (?) market, taking the cooking class, getting up to Piazzale Michaelango one night for the view etc. We love to shop and explore artisan shops, gelato tasting, etc.

If I'm losing perspective on another option please let me know, but that's my reasoning! As a side note, it's not that we don't appreciate great works of art for what they are, it's just not something we're passionate about. We far more enjoy the history behind places, learning about the cultures, the food!! and standing in amazement at the next great sight before us.

Looking forward to your feedback :)

PQ

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3263 posts

If you decide to delete Florence for a new destination, you could consider an itinerary like this:

Venice, Bologna, (perhaps Verona), Lake Como for this cooking class in Varenna with Chef Mareno and Milan.

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28299 posts

I see nothing wrong with your plan to base in Florence. I would caution you, though, that--depending on how long ago you were 16--you may be shocked at how much more crowded the city is now, which may affect how you feel about it. I'm just suggesting that you temper your expectations in that regard.

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3293 posts

Tuscan hill towns are not easy to get to from Florence. You need to rent a car to explore Tuscany or join a tour. My first trip to Florence was the same as yours but acraven hit the nail on the head when she said:

you may be shocked at how much more crowded the city is now

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755 posts

There are actually a lot of Tuscan hill towns that can be seen easily by bus or train, however, it takes longer than driving there yourself. On the other hand it’s stress-free.

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There are actually a lot of Tuscan hill towns that can be seen easily by bus or train, however, it takes longer than driving there yourself. On the other hand it’s stress-free.

And is a very long day. I don't recommend public transportation for Tuscany because you want to include the most scenic roads to see it i.e. the Chiantigiana (SR222) in the Chianti region and the cypres tree-lined Val d’Orcia Valley (SR2 to SP146): https://lovefromtuscany.com/scenic-drives-in-tuscany/.

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I agree with your choice of Florence. There is so much to do there. You can easily take a cooking class during your time there. There are dozens of them listed on TripAdvisor. If you are both in great shape, then I highly recommend climbing the 463 steps to the top of Duomo. I would recommend doing that earlier in the day before it gets hot and congested. Another option within a 15 minute taxi ride (or like 30 minutes on the bus) is the hill town of Fiesole. It’s small and quaint with an amphitheater and a few incredible restaurants. I like to go there for an afternoon for lunch and overlook Florence.

Have fun on your trip!

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Thanks everyone! Good to know this plan seems like a solid one.

A car is definitely out of the question so we will pick any day trips based on ease of transportation and/or day tour availability. Siena seems to be quite easy by bus so that will be on the short list.

Any food tour recommendations for Bologna? Especially interested in a Parmigiano Reggiano tour.

Any budget (at or below 130 Euros/night) hotel recommendations within walking distance (with carry-on luggage) from the main train stations in Bologna or Milan?