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Italy with young kids

Hello! I've enjoyed using this forum as a research tool for prior Europe trips - but this is my first time soliciting feedback! My husband and I are going to Italy this fall (late September) and will be traveling with my parents, siblings and cousins (all adults) along with our two children who will be nearly 4 and 2 at that time.

We are planning our trip and have pretty much settled on Paris (3 nights), Venice (2 nights), Cinque Terre (3 nights), Tuscany (7 nights) and Florence (1 night). My husband and I have been lucky enough to have visited Paris, Venice and Florence in prior trips - and are so excited to expose our kids to these incredible cities and cultures at a young age! We know this trip will be very different - less museums and churches, more parks and gelato (no complaints here!) - and we are embracing that wholeheartedly. The rest of my family has never been to Italy, so we anticipate breaking away from the group daily to give our kids some rest - and let the rest of my family continue to see all the sights.

I am looking for advice/feedback from anyone who has traveled to any of these places with young kids - anything from sightseeing recommendations to logistical advice (strollers, car seats, hiking backpacks, oh my!).

Thank you for all your advice and wisdom in advance!

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Your children will be treated like rock stars in Italy. Lots of Italian parents use strollers, even on buses (a mystery to me how they do that), just make sure yours is sturdy enough for cobblestones.

Villa Borghese park has a kitschy little train, or you can rent all kinds of transportation to ride around the park.

Lonely Planet guidebooks have sections on traveling with children, or just google something like "Rome with kids" for ideas.

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We have traveled to Europe 6 times with our kids who are now 4 and 2. I would not call any of our trips 'difficult' but that is because, like you, we recognized that it would be a different kind of trip than when we travel on our own. Not better or worse, just different. You're right, you won't see many museums on the other hand kids easily open doors for conversations with the locals (I can't tell you how many nuns stopped us in Florence to admire the kids).

Most of our travel has been by car but we have taken the train a few times. I think the train vs. car decision really comes down to a personal choice on what you want to see and how you want to see it. Both train and car come with their good points and bad when traveling with such young children. If you are planning to rent a car, I recommend taking your own car seats for two reasons: 1. You can't know if a rental car seat has been damaged in an accident, 2. I have heard horror stories of people arriving to pick up their car and no car seat was available. It can be a bit of a hassle but I think the peace of mind is worth it. We purchased a backpack style bag to carry our car seats (on Amazon for $35CDN). It protects the seat on the airplane and the backpack makes carting the seats through airports and train stations so much easier. Note: not all of our rental cars have had the tethers so be sure you double check that the car seat can be installed by seatbelt, too.

I highly recommend a baby backpack/carrier (we take an Ergo) for the 2 year old. It made it so much easier to keep track of her in airports when we might be distracted (i.e. security). It also made getting on and off planes, trains, busses, etc MUCH easier. It allowed me to have my hands free to hold on to our other little one or to help my husband with our bags. We could visit museums without fear of her touching something and she napped well in it. I used a sling on our first trip and don't recommend it. I didn't use it for anything other than holding our little guy on the flight over.

We have a Phil and Ted's double stroller that has been invaluable on our trips. It is a one-up, one-down stroller rather and a side-by-side stroller, so it is narrow and makes getting on and off busses and trains or through narrow doorways easy. Sometimes it takes up more room than we would like in a rental car or hotel room but I think the benefits outweigh the negatives. We've used the same stroller for every trip and it is still going strong. Some say not to take a stroller to Venice because of all the stairs but we didn't have an issue picking it up and carrying it over the bridges - again that is a personal choice. You may find the combination of baby backpack and umbrella stroller works best for you. Either way, I highly recommend having a place you can buckle them into if things get crowded and confusing or little feet get tired of chasing pigeons. If its comfortable, they will probably nap in it, too!

I would recommend a little collapsing cooler bag. We always travel with one with our kids and have a sippy cup of milk, a sandwich (although our kids eat everything, we pick up a jar of peanut butter early in the trip to make sure there is always a familiar snack ready for them the moment crankiness starts to set in) , and other snacks. I loved having an excuse to shop at all the amazing fruit and veggie stands!

I encourage you to consider renting apartments at least a few times. Just one or two nights eating a familiar, homemade meal and being allowed to spread out and play as much as they want (instead of being on best behaviour at a restaurant) can have a hugely positive impact on your kids behaviour over the course of the whole trip.

If you ask around you will find some pretty amazing playgrounds - our favourite so far was in a suburb of Vienna.

Feel free to PM me anytime you want a second opinion as you plan your trip.

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Thank you so much for your responses! It is definitely comforting to know that kids are welcomed - and I am really looking forward to the conversations that may arise due to having our kids with us!

Chris - I am in awe that you have taken six trips to Europe with your kids - that is so inspiring! What an incredible experience for them (and you!). I'm so glad to hear that it was worth it for you to bring your double stroller - while it is so bulky, I know the kids will be able to nap in it, and it can provide some shade if the weather is still warm this fall. I didn't even think about bringing the ergo - I was thinking of purchasing a more rugged hiking-style baby carrier. It's great to hear that the ergo worked well for you! I know we will want some sort of carrier - the thought of him running around loose in Venice, specifically, is slightly terrifying. :)

Brilliant idea on the collapsible cooler along with some familiar snacks - thank you! Our daughter will be in heaven with pasta, pizza and gelato. We will need to be a little more creative with our son as he has some dairy intolerance, so familiar snacks will be great for him.

We will be in a hotel in Paris - but are looking now for apartments/hotels in Venice and Cinque Terre and are hoping to find apartments. We will be staying altogether in a villa in Tuscany for the second week, so we know we will have elbow room for the kids (and adults, frankly) by the time we get there!

We were thinking of shipping our car seats directly to the villa so we wouldn't have to bother with them during the first week - but, I think I would feel much safer having them with us, so we will definitely check out the carrying cases on Amazon!

Thank you for sharing your wisdom - I will definitely reach out via PM, as I'm sure I will have additional questions.

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Rick's separate (but full-sized) city guidebooks for each of your larger destinations includes a chapter on traveling with kids, of course with the advice spread over a range of ages. I see that the book mentions strollers as a way to keep toddlers from wandering into the canals of Venice. Even if you don't use one at home, I'm thinking that a toddler leash would be an additional, lightweight tool to carry for the same reason.

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Mary,

I had the same fears about our then 2.5 year old in Venice but I don't remember us having any problems in the end. There are paths near the canals but there are also lots of streets and piazzas with no water in sight. In fact, my fondest Venetian memory is him spending almost an hour chasing pigeons in St. Mark's Square! They force you to slow down and really savour a place.

You mentioned the hiking backpack carrier. There are lots of places that rent baby gear in France and Italy. Many will deliver to the airport or your hotel. It might be worth doing a search for one this way, rather than lugging yet another large piece of gear around with you ... especially if you are thinking you might only want it for a small part of the trip.

Another thought I had was that we were concerned about keeping our youngest from falling out of strange beds. After lots of trial and error and google searches I discovered that tucking a pool noodle under the fitted sheet along the side of the bed worked really well. Of course, you don't want to be lugging pool noodles around Italy but I happened to find inflatable ones at WalMart last summer for $1 each (you could probably find them on Amazon, too). We bought two and they worked perfectly.

Try not to overthink the gear. I made that mistake on our first trip. You will regret the inconvenience of carrying too much more than you will miss a random piece of baby gear that might only gets used once. You can do laundry (rent apartments with laundry facilities if you can) and can buy snacks, clothes, and gear as you go.

One last thing. You mentioned your son has a milk intolerance. I don't know what types of special foods you may or may not want while you are there but you could check out the brand "Hipp". They make organic baby and toddler foods and might have something you'd like for him. Use the UK website to find what they have in English then go to the Italian website to see what it looks like in Italian. Google translate will also help. Most grocery stores and drug stores carry their products.

You are going to have such a fun trip! I'm envious of the extra adult hands you will have with you! Family trips are the best!

Christina

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We stayed here in Venice and loved it

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