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Italy requires Green Pass to travel on trains as of Sept 1

My wife and I are in Italy now since August 18. We were on a train from Firenze to Milano when an announcement came on that stated all passengers traveling on Italian train (all public transportation possibly) would require a Green Pass. We have already been turned away from indoor seating at 6 or 8 restaurants because we have a CDC card but no Green Pass. Today we took the fast train from Milano to Napoli. When I arrived at the Milano station, I parked myself outside the Trenitalia lounge and waited for Trenitalia staff to exit. I asked them about it and if the CDC Card would suffice as a green pass (because it does not for restaurants - so far). Their answer was in the affirmative. So today I bought ticket from Napoli to Brindisi (after we spend a week on Ischia. I will let you know if they were right. If you have questions, send me a private message. I will not respond on the forum, but I do want to "pay it forward".

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Kudos for the valuable on-the-ground report, Frank!
Crossing fingers that you get to Brindisi without undue ado.

Posted by
84 posts

Sorry to hear about the obstacles that you have encountered with regards to the Green Card. This information is crucial for the rest of us while we continue with our travel arrangements. Thank you so much and good luck to you and your wife.

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650 posts

The Italian Ministry of Health issued an ordinance on July 29, 2021 stating that an Anti-COVID-19 vaccination certificate for an European Medicines Agency (EMA) recognized vaccine from competent U.S. health authorities (CDC “white cards”) will be considered the equivalent of the Italian Green Pass where this requirement exists.

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The CDC card must be carried together with a valid passport to be used as a Green Pass.

Unfortunately many restaurateurs have no time to read the ordinances issued by the Ministry of Health, they just listen to the news on TV and they are afraid of fines.

I don't know if those guys out of the lounge were conductors or engineers, even if this time you stumbled upon the right guys next time I'd ask the Information Office.

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Dario.....since you are Italian, could you help us find an Italian government webpage that says the US CDC card can be used as a green certificate. I found this page in English but would like to find the equivalent in Italian:

http://www.italia.it/en/useful-info/covid-19-updates-information-for-tourists.html

You need to scroll down to the section:

COVID-19 DIGITAL GREEN CERTIFICATE TRAVEL AND ACCESS TO CULTURAL AND RECREATIONAL EVENTS

Not just Dario.....anyone who is fluent in Italian.

Posted by
6017 posts

Unfortunately, if restaurant staff turns you away because you don't have the green pass and will not recognize the CDC card, hauling out a piece of paper will probably not change their mind, but sure, maybe.

Official capacities, like the trains and museums, will be better informed, so I would not anticipate a problem there.

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Grazie Dario, so basically to sum up what was said a CDC card will suffice on the trains and that for trains and museums etc we won't need a green card.?

I know when flying to Italy we will need to have a green card but it won't stay valid unless every three days you have to go somewhere and get tested again no? I better check out the green card website to see. Everything is going to be great as I'm going in a month without any issues. Mama Mia.

As an FYI Italy other than Sicily is in white zone no for Covid cases? I don't know what accurate anymore and I'm going there at the end of September but I don't want to risk my life if cases are rising.

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As Dario said the CDC is sufficient and alternative to the Green Pass. The first days several tourists suffered problems in restaurants and museums, not only from the USA, because the employees weren't ready to check the certificates (and the European system wasn't 100% working, so Green Cards issued in other countries weren't recognized). We hope soon everything will work better without issues.
BTW: remember that Green Pass will be mandatory on every public transport moving between regions in Italy, so trains and coaches. For local ones (regional trains and buses) isn't required (yet).

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It was my understanding that you cant even obtain a italian green pass at all if you are from USA/ CAD. It seems like it would be soo much easier if we could.

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It was my understanding that you cant even obtain a italian green pass at all if you are from USA/ CAD. It seems like it would be soo much easier if we could.

This is correct, and yes, it would make sense. You would think that once your papers are checked at immigration, you could be sent a QRM code that indicates you are good to go. France is allowing issue of a green pass to non-residents, as are a couple other countries.

I believe the hope is that restaurants and other venues will catch on to what is allowed, and in a short time it will be a non-issue. To be honest, I am amazed that restaurants are turning away customers, probably not happening in the tourist areas, but I have plans for a few out of the way places, so here's hoping.

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the Canadian version is this 'receipt' quality paper with poor ink. I hope it survives being in a pocket all the time. A QR code would be fantastic instead.

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I know when flying to Italy we will need to have a green card but it
won't stay valid unless every three days you have to go somewhere and
get tested again no? I better check out the green card website to see.

This is false. You need a negative test, your CDC card and the PLF form to fly.
Please read the above info- your CDC card is accepted in place of the Green Pass. There is no mechanism for US citizens to obtain a Green Pass for Italy at this time so going to the site is pointless.

As an FYI Italy other than Sicily is in white zone no for Covid cases?
I don't know what accurate anymore and I'm going there at the end of
September but I don't want to risk my life if cases are rising.

White Zone does not mean NO cases.
You can see for yourself what the case counts are here:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html

I know things are a bit confusing with all the requirements/changes, etc but is is important to get your info from legitimate official sources and try to post only accurate info here.