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was just coming to post that!
great news but I am still not clear on the Green pass-
will we have to actually get that from EU or will they accept our CDC vax card?

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So does this mean if we have a flight that has a layover in another country then we can come in to Italy without the quarantine? It seems slightly vague that they still want a Covid free flight.

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That’s great news, we’re hoping to get to Florence sometime early September or mid October.

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We’re on a “continuing” ticket from Orlando to Rome, changing planes in London. So. I guess this means we will be okay as long as it’s on the same ticket?

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No more quarantine if you have proof of a negative Covid test with you taken within 72 hrs for PCR and 48 hrs for Antigen and your CDC card.

And, “Americans should soon be able to arrive on any flights to Italy instead of only those COVID-tested flights we’ve been reporting on.”

My son and his 3 friends will be going into Italy from France on 6/24 so this is great news for them. I will post about their experience on 6/24.

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That announcement says travelers from the UK are not included. If we are just “transiting” through LHR to Italy, we should be okay? Am I correct?

Thanks

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The TPG article above says nothing about CDC cards, it does mention "so called green pass" but no confirmation yet on if the CDC card is acceptable. I assume it probably will be but be careful about posting things not actually reported.

This is the official Italian site- I'll wait til this is updated
https://www.salute.gov.it/portale/nuovocoronavirus/dettaglioContenutiNuovoCoronavirus.jsp?lingua=english&id=5412&area=nuovoCoronavirus&menu=vuoto

From this report:
https://www.corriere.it/cronache/21_giugno_18/chi-arriva-gran-bretagna-dovra-fare-quarantena-5-giorni-1fac3fae-d02e-11eb-8ae4-82443567179f.shtml

«I have signed a new ordinance», wrote the Minister of Health on
Facebook, «which: 1) allows entry from European Union countries and
from the United States, Canada and Japan with the requirements of the
Green Certificate; 2) extends the measures to ban entry from India,
Bangladesh and Sri Lanka; 3) introduces a 5-day quarantine with the
obligation of a swab for those coming from Great Britain ».

The requirements of the "green certificate" mentioned by the minister
are three: being able to prove that you have tested negative for a
swab within the previous 48 hoursupon arrival in the country of
destination; being able to prove that they have been cured of Covid ;
be able to prove that they have been vaccinated with at least a 15-day
dose .

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That announcement says travelers from the UK are not included. If we
are just “transiting” through LHR to Italy, we should be okay? Am I
correct? Thanks

This is not clear at all. The announcement says as above:
3) introduces a 5-day quarantine with the
obligation of a swab for those coming from Great Britain ».

No mention of lay over flights being allowed. Only says "those coming from GB" which is what you would be doing- layover or not you are still coming from GB.

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Christine, Italy has been open to American tourists since 6/9 coming in not on Covid tested flights (by intra-Europe flights, trains, cars, etc) with a CDC card, a negative Covid test and a 10 day quarantine. I think it is safe to assume they will continue to accept a CDC card which is the only proof an American has that they’ve been vaccinated.

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My son has researched the requirements for many countries for his trip up until he left and he just flew to Paris yesterday/today, going through Lisbon.

He researched many options, but all of them allowed transiting through an airport no matter where that airport is if you followed certain simple rules.

You know, there is proving to be a difference between murky published rules and requirements, and what is actually being allowed.

When he got to SFO no one asked him or his 3 friends for their CDC card or proof of a negative Covid test. When they got to Lisbon and went through Immigration, no one asked. When they boarded the plane to Paris hours later, no one asked for their CDC card or proof of a negative Covid test. And when they got to Paris, CDG, no one asked.

All 4 of them could have flown to Paris, with a few hours layover in Lisbon, with no CDC card and no proof of taking a Covid test.

Of course not everyone will have that experience. But the 4 of them did and I am sure they are not the only ones that are never asked.

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Christine, Italy has been open to American tourists since 6/9 coming
in in Covid free flights with only a CDC card and a negative Covid
test. I think it is safe to assume they will continue to accept a CDC
card which is the only proof an American has that they’ve been
vaccinated.

CDC card is not and has never been required for the official COVID tested flights approved by Italian Health Ministry.

https://www.salute.gov.it/portale/nuovocoronavirus/dettaglioContenutiNuovoCoronavirus.jsp?lingua=english&id=5412&area=nuovoCoronavirus&menu=vuoto&tab=9

here are the OFFICIAL requirements from above link

Requirements

Passengers on "Covid-tested" flights are required to:

hand in to the carrier and to whoever is in charge of carrying out the
controls, upon boarding, a certification attesting to the negative
result of the molecular test (RT PCR) or antigenic test, carried out
by means of a swab, no later than 48 hours prior to boarding complete
the Passenger Locator Form (PLF) - digital dPLF to be shown before
boarding. See the dedicated section How to fill out the Passenger
Locator Form take another molecular (RT PCR) or antigen swab test upon
arrival at the destination airport.

We are booked on one of these approved flights. As far as Lisbon, Paris etc I have no clue because I am not going there.
Not sure where you are getting your info from but just to reiterate the CDC card and vaccination status has never been a requirement on the COVID tested flights to Italy.

Since today's changes I do expect that the CDC card will have to suffice for a "green certificate" for Italy, as France, Spain, maybe others? seem to be accepting it now. The only other change is the number of tests you will need- one before departure to Italy, 1 for return to USA. 2 tests now, not 3.

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Christine, What you quoted me saying about Covid tested flights was very badly written on my part and I understand the disconnect I created.

I meant to say that Italy has been allowing Americans to come into Italy by ways other than Covid tested flights since 6/9. Americans could come in by intra-Europe flights, train, car, etc., with a CDC card, a negative Covid test and a 10 day quarantine.

They now have dropped the quarantine requirement. I think it is safe to assume you now only need the other two requirements in place since 6/9, a CDC card and a negative Covid test.

I will edit my post above.

My point about Lisbon, Paris is that what we all are reading and relying on, and often times is unclear, from gov’t websites is not necessarily being followed in real life.

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Susan, thank you for that clarification.
I still don't see where a CDC card has ever been a requirement for entry- test/quarantine or COVID flight.
Not that it matters anymore, happy to show mine, happy to test.

https://www.salute.gov.it/portale/nuovocoronavirus/dettaglioContenutiNuovoCoronavirus.jsp?lingua=italiano&id=5412&area=nuovoCoronavirus&menu=vuoto&tab=4

Compliance

When returning to Italy, if you have stayed in/transited through these
countries in the previous 14 days, you must:

undergo a molecular or antigenic swab carried out within 72 hours
prior to entry into Italy and the result of which is negative complete
the digital Passenger Locator Form, which replaces the previous
self-declaration inform the local health authority immediately of your
arrival in Italy. See: COVID-19 Regional toll-free numbers and
information reach their final destination in Italy only by private
transport undergo fiduciary isolation and health surveillance for 10
days. This provision applies only to entries into Italy after the
entry into force of the Ordinance of April 16, 2021 undergo an
additional molecular or antigenic swab at the end of the 10-day
isolation period. Those who entered Italy before April 18, 2021 must
complete the 14-day isolation period and do not need to undergo any
further testing

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I don’t believe they consider “transiting through a country” and “transiting through an airport” as the same thing.

Proof of vaccination was required and Americans only had a CDC card as proof

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@susan: The Re-open EU site is "An official website of the European Union" and has a travel planner that allows you to check current regulations, including adding a transit. For example, you can plan "Outside EU" to "Italy" and add "Germany" as a transit:

https://reopen.europa.eu/en

For the above example, I currently get "Changing flights without leaving the international transit area of an airport does not constitute an entry into Germany for the purposes of the relevant regulation." (referring to entry restrictions detailed prior on the page) under Transit by Air.

The above site claims to be updated frequently, but includes the disclaimer the information is not exhaustive.

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Alan, thank you, that’s what I thought.
And thank you for the link.