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Italy and Switzerland

Hi, We are planning a 12-day trip to Italy/Switzerland. We are wondering if we should take a train pass or individual tickets? The legs are: Milan/Luzerne Luzerne/Montreux (Golden Pass) Montreux/Venice Venice/Florence Florence/Rome Rome/Milan I've looked at various sites and my situation is probably between the two obvious answers. Also, Trenitalia doesn't show a train from Milan to Arth Goldau (which is to go to Luzerne). Any idea?
Also Montreux/Venice?

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I'd say you're better off getting the individual tickets, even in Switzerland where those are more expensive. To me, it seems you're not doing enough travel within Switzerland to justify the pass. The rail pass doesn't cover seat reservations in Italy, and buying the Italian trips early enough will save you some money. For the train tickets going from Italy to Switzerland, try sbb.ch (the Swiss train website). It showed me options from Montreux to Venice, and may for the others as well. Happy travels!

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From Milanto Arth-Goldau, there's a direct train, but you must spell it correctly, with the hyphen, and the starting station is Milano Centrale. Also make sure you enter a morning time, don't let it default to the middle of the night.the 11:10 train should come up at 61 euro. Choose that and on the next page look for the "see other fares" button. On the next page choose a Smart Fare and it should be 22 euro. For Montreux to Venice, you probably need to break it into two segments: Montreux to Milan, and Milan to Venice. check prices for the former on both SBB and Trenitalia. for Milan to Venice, look for a Super Economy fare on Trenitalia. MIT should be either 9 or 19 euro. If you are looking at dates after mid-June, Trenitalia may not have the schedules up yet.

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Hi Kalyan. On trenitalia.com, I am seeing direct trains from Milano to Arth-Goldau at 7:10 am, 9:10 am, etc. I used a random date of March 20; did you maybe mis-type the city names? Enjoy your trip!

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Thanks guys. I realized what I was doing wrong. For Milano the site autofills the name, so I was expecting it to do the same for Arth-Goldau. When I typed it in and hit enter, it showed the results. As for Smart, it took me a while to figure out how to find those spots but I managed that too. But for this segment I see the Smart1 and Smart2 are both grayed out for various departure times. Kinda sucks I hope it's available for the other legs.
We are travelling from March 30th to April 12th.

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The Smart fares may be already gone for travel in your time period. Generally, you need to book them 2 months or more in advance. Note that from Montreux to Venice, there is a direct train (no changes) departing Montreux at 8:36.

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Thanks a bunch Lola. That is very helpful. Now if I can convince my wife to wake up that early!

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To be honest, I wouldn't want to catch a train that early either! I hate rushing away from a place when I am on vacation. The later trains have a change at Milano Centrale, but that is not a big deal. Maybe let your wife have her way one this one?