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Iran conflict

Venice, Florence Rome tour to begin March 10. I’m feeling the pressure of traveling closer to the Middle East. Anyone there now who can report on threat concerns?

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No, it’s not directly affecting us in Europe except the security forces are on the highest alert possible to avert homegrown retaliatory attacks although no European countries are involved in bombing. It’s affecting those families who have members working or traveling in the area.
Edit: A French base that is shared with the Americans was hit.

Your tour company would cancel the tour if necessary.

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We just returned from a tour of India and Nepal, changing flights in Dubai. We flew out of Dubai over Iran four days prior to the start of the attack on Iran.
Soooo glad we made it.

Italy is NOT a problem. Just don't plan to visit Israel or anywhere in the Middle East right now.

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Milo5526, Italy is indeed closer to the Middle East and the threat of somehting local happening might be greater because of demographics. Still, I think the threat of something significant happening is pretty small, but that could be my hopeful thinking.

You gotta choose your camp. Some are pessimistic and go through life thinking they know everything and miss out on a lot of great opportunities. Some just wander in the fog and somehow manage to survive. And some take precautions and get on with life.

For me if I were to do your trip, I would have a little heightened awareness in anything Israeli or Jewish or American (that’s been a good idea since at least 1934). And if that little voice said, naaaaa, move on, I would and I wouldn’t be embarrassed to do so.

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I personally wouldn't be concerned about a trip to Italy right now, although things are moving so fast it is hard to predict what is going to happen next. It's not true to say that Europe is not involved as Cyprus has been hit by several missiles since the UK announced yesterday they would let the US use their airbases there. I think the best thing is to proceed as normal but keep a very close eye on the news.

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While it is easy to say "Oh no, no problem" one thing that may be a concern is the general threat level for terrorism. Targeting US assets (Bases, embassies, Businesses etc.) is a very real possibility and targeting areas with large numbers of US tourists much the same. The State department may provide some updated guidance via the STEP program, maybe worth registering for that to get alerts, and documenting your travel plans.

But overall, I will still be going to Italy in April, but with a bit more caution, and one eye on what is going on around Europe.

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18606 posts

I head back to Europe in 5 weeks. Unless WWIII starts, I'm going.

The irony is that my original plans had me in Israel this month but I postponed it to the fall.

Posted by
2080 posts

Well, an Iranian missile reached Cyprus without damages, it is about half way to Italy but already EU territory. I personally believe all parties cannot sustain a long war so the thing will subside.
If it may interest you, the Italian defense minister is at present mocked on social media because he went to Dubai with his family without telling anybody and was astounded to find himself in the middle of a war. At least a minister should have known better.

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I take the same approach as Cat. Never say never but I’m still making plans to travel within Europe and hoping for the best. I probably would be a bit wary of booking a longer trip so I can see why somebody coming from America would have more concerns. Things can change very quickly.

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Now let me give a piece of serious advice. I am not a big tourist, I tend to go always to same places and within 1 day or 2 driving time from home, but I have toured half the world for business and I have found myself in some troubles at some time. First, you cannot really predict what could be wrong so be ready at all time; readiness is being sure, for example, that your are covered for health assistance; and also have an extra credit card handy. I was in Tokyo as the March 11th, 2011 earthquake struck, tsunami was not an issue for my colleagues and me, but Fukushima radioactive emissions were (when we came back to Italy we were all tested and most of us had slightly radioactive urines). When the worst comes to the worst, your ticket for going back home may be worthless (in our cases, no planes to/from Italy dared land in Tokyo challenging radioactive emissions) and air prices for alternate itineraries go through the roof; some colleagues wanted to leave but had already maxed their credit cards; they could afford a standard price ticket, but not a double price one. I can understand the people now blocked at Dubai as I have experienced something like that on my own.
Having a credit card with a high limit, and not even using it is a definite plus. I understand traveling is expensive and everybody likes to keep prices in control, but at extraordinary times you may need an extra safety lining. In most cases you are not going to spend it anyway. My 2 cents.

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"Having a credit card with a high limit, and not even using it is a definite plus. ...snip.... but at extraordinary times you may need an extra safety lining."

I think this is very wise advice, indeed.

As travel started back after Covid I did this exact thing just because I didn't know if I might be quarantined some place and have to buy an expensive plane ticket back home. This applies in many situations including the volatility of war or terrorist situations.

Meanwhile, to the OP, I'd start packing! You leave a week from today? Yesterday?

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Anything can happen at any time and at any place. A friend of mine from high school is a chief executive with a European multinational and was on a business trip to Dubai and he sent me a text this weekend saying he was miraculously spared, as both his hotel and the airport were struck shortly after his plane left for Sydney. I hope his next meeting in Australia goes well but you can never trust those New Zealanders (lol).

The risk of war planes or missiles hitting Italy is next to zero. At the moment the Italian government is in high alert for possible terrorism activity, as it always happens at time of crisis in the Middle East, so just apply situational awareness and stay away from big crowds with lots of Americans if you can. The Jewish ghetto of Rome will have extra security so you may have to show your passport to get close to it. The Israeli Embassy in Rome is totally unapproachable to non residents, so no risk of being to close to it, not even GoogleMaps StreetView can go there and there are always soldiers there, even on regular days.

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Roberto makes an important point. "Carry your passport or don't carry your passport" is a discussion often on here. With many opting not, even though Italian law prefers you do.

In these times especially, if something happens, you will want it on you, not miles away at a hotel, and not a paper copy. You can also expect many more passport checks if alert levels rise.

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Paul, I have been beating that dead horse for years. I met a tourist last night that was telling me how she came around a corner and ended up in the middle of a protest. Just a few hundred people saying bad things about the PM. Europeans love their protests and Budapest is no different. But I like to point out that here they pick up their trash when they are done and they go home early ... and thats true. But it only takes one nut to do something stupid and that tourist lady would have been so lucky to have had her passport on her. But things like that never happen and no one would file a missle at Cyprus. Here I have no doubt if you wave a US Passport you immediately get to walk. If you wave piece of paper with a picture on it, who ever is in charge at the police station will probably let you walk.

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"Anything can happen at any time and at any place."

Uh, no. The "anything(s)" aren't the same probability. Some very little chance, some more.

The missiles and such are a low probability to cause harm if not in the Middle East. The biggest danger to me right now is, as said, someone targeting large groups of Tourists, especially if a lot of Americans are there.

Still, not that high a probability. I'd still go if I could but I'd try to hang around the edge of any crowd rather than the center. And keep my eyes open for anything that looked "off". But I'm more paranoid than the average.

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I don't think I'm a fearful traveler. I visited the USSR. I've traveled in the Middle East. I went to N Ireland during the "troubles." When I visited Mexico I traveled by bus and stayed in little local hotels. But the situation in Iran has me worried. We are planning a fall visit to Italy, but I haven't booked the air yet and all our hotels can be cancelled until 2 days before. We're taking a wait and see approach. This can go south so fast. People are talking about missiles, but there's also terrorism, which I think will increase. And do you remember Pan Am 103? Frankly, it pisses me off when we start wars in other countries and the American response is "It doesn't affect me because the missiles can't get this far."