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Ideal time for Vatican Museum tickets to avoid crowds? Early Oct 2025

Hi,

Me and my wife plan on visiting the Vatican Museums as part of our honeymoon; we're looking at either Oct 4 (Saturday) or Oct 6 (Monday) to visit. It seems like ticket availbility is somewhat sporadic, but would it make a huge difference between booking a 8 AM ticket vs a 8:30 / 9 AM ticket? And would it make a huge difference visiting on a Saturday vs a Monday? I remember visiting back in 2019 in the afternoon and I remember it being uncomfortably crowded, and it looks like there's no longer Vatican at night tickets :(

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We just came back. Our Vatican tickets were 10:30 and it was severely overcrowded. I would say the earlier the better. With the Jubilee we expected crowds but the Vatican and the Vatican Museums were the worst but to be expected.