What is the best way from Orvieto to Pisa?
I try to look for train in trenitalia but nothing shows up. My visiting time would be mid June, perhaps on 11th of June.
Other method is driving which would take approx. 2.5 hours passing Florence in between. I think with train it'd take longer ie. 4 hours?
There are plenty of trains, but they are Regionali. Since you are traveling after June 10, it is after the semi annual schedule change and they have not posted the schedule yet. For now, just look at the schedule for the same day of the week on a day before June 10. You'll see many options and the schedule does not change all that much, if at all.
Regionale prices are always the same, so no reason to buy in advance. Right now, the price is 21.50 EUR.
On the current timetable, this is your best connection.
IC 588
Dep 11:45 ORVIETO (Italy)
Arr 13:36 FIRENZE RIFREDI (Italy)
Then ...
RE 24677
Dep 13:59 FIRENZE RIFREDI (Italy)
Arr 15:03 PISA CENTRALE (Italy)
Similar connection available two hours later.
thanks All, pretty amusing the schedule isn't out with less than 2 months visit time :)
I've checked and the schedules I'm interested on having transit at one of the Firenze stations either S.M Novella or Rifredi with only few minutes ie. 8-12minutes transit time. Is it going to be enough time especially at S.M Novella one?
If you drive, it won’t be much faster than a train. You need 3 hours, assuming you don’t get lost. And that is only the driving time, once you add the paperwork and stuff for renting the car and returning it at the Pisa Airport, and the transfer from the airport to the Pisa Centrale station, the train is faster.
12 min are more than enough to change trains at SMN.
The fact that the summer schedule for Regional trains is not out yet is not the amusing part. Those trains are subject to Regional subsidies which are negotiated between regional governments and Trenitalia, and sometimes those negotiations are subject to delays.
To be noted that Italian taxpayers are subsidizing those trains not only for their own local commuters, but also for foreign tourists who pay no taxes in Italy. I’ve always held the belief that local residents (taxpayers) should be allowed to buy discounted subsidized tickets and monthly passes on those regional trains, but non residents (non taxpayers) like you or me should pay the full price. The fact that Italian taxpayers are subsidizing your travels is indeed the most amusing part of the situation.
I'll never understand the reason some need to know the schedules of trains that can't sell out more than 2 days in advance. Do you have so little confidence in your railway system to be afraid of local trains not running?
Nevertheless, Roberto, tourists who don't have family in Italy now pay a tourist tax and I doubt most of them ask for their VAT to be reimbursed. Without the tourists tax - per night and per person! - Rome would probably be a... oh, wait. Actually, Rome is a...
Another thing to note about looking up schedules on Trenitalia: you need to put in the earliest time of day you're interested in traveling, in the box to the right of the date (24 hr. clock), and it will show you all the rest of the times as well. If you don't do this, it will only show you times based on what time you're looking, plus however many hours ahead they are in their time zone. So, if you're in, say, Boston, checking Trenitalia at 6 p.m. your time, and you don't fill in the time box, it will only show you times from midnight on.
The tourist tax doesn’t pay for train transport subsidy. That comes from other sources.
The train ticket pays for less than 40% of the operating costs. 60%+ of the cost is subsidized by taxpayers at large, including those who never take trains.
Like people filling their fuel tanks? At the equivalent of $6/gal, there's got to be some tax money there.
The tourist tax doesn’t pay for train transport subsidy.
And then? If tourists did not pay that tax, locals should pay more for other things and the all system would have less resources. The connection may not be direct, but I wouldn't label tourists as free-riders. They pay the tourist tax, pay for VAT on services, taxes on gas...
it will only show you times based on what time you're looking
DB, SNCF and SBB sites work the same way, it's quite normal on all official sites. The problem with Trenitalia.com is the drop down menu to pick the departure hour: some do not "see" it. For instance "17" is just a number for you while "17:00" would obviously be a time of departure, something to pay attention to.
thanks for telling me that since I'm a tourist definitely not knowing all about 'the train ticket won't sold out within 2 days' thing.
yes, tourists do pay tax and compared to where I live it's pretty high. we eat, shop, stay everything is VAT included and the only thing worth for VAT reimbursement is those branded EU items that of course compared to other countries (with the VAT refund) is still 'cheaper'
Hi Inbsig
thanks for the info but I think I got a bit lost with this part 'So, if you're in, say, Boston, checking Trenitalia at 6 p.m. your time, and you don't fill in the time box, it will only show you times from midnight on'.
Do you mean the interpretation of the 'hour' box is often overlooked by some? If that's what you mean, I agree. In a glimpse the 'hour' could be confusing.
EDIT: Actually I just re-check since you mention and just realize the 'hour' box automatically shown my local time. I did not pay attention on that before
