Please sign in to post.

Grosseto and Saturnia and tips for old travelers viisiting the CT for the first time

We are fascinated with Etruscan history which makes us think we would enjoy the sites near Grosseto. There is not much information about that area on the RS Travel Forum, which is understandable given all that Italy has to offer. We are planning to fly in to Milan, beat our jet lag at Lake Orta and then heading down to the Cinque Terre and Portofino. We will have about 4 days between Porto Venere and Ostia Antica (to pick up our son who will be in Italy for the first time and will visit Rome Florence and Venice with us). Thoughts on Etruscan history, the thermal spas and other sights.

We are not very mobile so we were thinking we should spend on night in the Cinque Terre but might enjoy the area better with a few nights in Rapallo to cruise down to some of the towns and a few nights in Portovenere. Overkill or a rational pace for folks who love Italians on our 6th trip to areas north of Rome? Are we wrong that if we spend some time on boats and walking and if we are long past days soaking in the sun, that we'd go home with enough memories of coastal Italy that we'd not get a whole lot more by traveling down to Positano too?

Posted by
798 posts

Hello Lindann,

I have not been to Grosseto but it seems like an easily navigated location. It has train access and a large, flat and open city center that looks largely traffic free. If you want to visit Roselle it may be more of a challenge. It looks like one bus - the G20 - is listed as going all the way to the site but that schedule seems like only 4 times a day and no Sunday service. (Maybe summer service is better?)
Whether you want to tackle the unrestored surfaces of an Etruscan city is up to you.

The Ligurian coast outside of CT is largely flat so Rapallo down through Levanto are beachfront towns. PV is somewhat flatter and more accessible than the CT towns themselves but I spent 3 days there in 2022 and I found it to be more touristy than I wanted with the ferry running to CT from La Spezia stopping and dropping groups of tourists there regularly.
I found the south side of the bay much more interesting with beachy San Terezano, resorty Lerici with a Marina and a castle and the CT like Tellaro much more "Italian" in tone. Everywhere on the coast in Italy has tourists but the south side of the bay was more "Italians summering" than Americans and English day tripping.

And as complete aside I was surprised and impressed by the collection of Etruscan (and Celtic) artifacts in the Archaeological Museum of Bologna when we visited recently.

Hope that helps some, have a great trip,
=Tod

Posted by
72 posts

We will have a car, coming from the Cinque Terre, heading toward Sorano, Saturnia, and Pitigliano. Wondering if we should drive straight to Sorano or if there are charming sights south of Lucca to break up the trip from Levanto to Sorana into two or more days.

Posted by
3599 posts

Sovana is another town very close to Sorano worthy of a short stop. Also in the area is the Via Cava, a trail which links various Etruscan sites. The Citta Del Tufo archaeological park contains the remnants of the palace of an Etruscan ruler.
Saturnia is quite small, but very close to a free thermal spring. The problem is that because it is free the road approaching it gets parked up very early. There is also a large thermal spring resort with an entrance fee. I have no recollection of how much it costs, but that should be easy to find.
In my opinion, Portofino would be a waste of your time. It is a place where wealthy people go, often in their yachts. There’s not much of interest there.

Posted by
1699 posts

I found Sorano interesting but it's not for everyone . The town is situated along a hillside with evocative streets and buildings but it's very depopulated. One can imagine the past vividly, but not hopefully. Sovrano on the other hand was depressing for the opposite reason, it was very active but with tourist bus visitors. The shops were totally tourist oriented and the town has been fixed up like a movie set.

Posted by
4384 posts

In addition to the archaeological park near Sorano/Sovana, be sure to check out the one at Populonia/Baratti.

I found the Monte Argentario promontory to be quite beautiful for a scenic drive. The Lerici area is quite beautiful also (don't miss Tellaro). Either of those would win hands down over Portofino (but Campogli and SML are lovely).

Saturnia was too crowded for me, but I did a quick foot soak.

Posted by
424 posts

If you are really interested in Etruscan history head to Tarquinia. There are at least two necropoli and a museum that are open to the public. It’s on your way to Rome/Ostia shouldn’t be very crowded. Give it a look.

Posted by
72 posts

Thank you all. So many good recommendations and I think we will have time to visit most of the them. Sorano, Sovano, and Pitigliano all look like good bases for some great places. How would you split 4 nights in that area? Currently I'm thinking 2 at Sorano and 2 at Pigliano. Your thoughts?

We had Ortebello on our radar. Glad to hear you confirm that choice

Brad, your suggestion was great. We will add Tarquinia to our itineray. The ruins look impressive and I'm eager to see Etruscan handiwork again. It, along with the Raphael rooms, were the highlight of my visit to the Vatican Museum.

Ideas about Sutri and the area south of Vitterbo.

Posted by
1699 posts

It would be a mistake to stay in Sorano. The town is virtually empty with few services. Look at the photos on this page: https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g664984-d9795443-Reviews-Sorano_Centro_Storico-Sorano_Province_of_Grosseto_Tuscany.html

Pitigliano is quite small but more lively and two nights there with walks on one of the Vie Cave would be pleasant. The hotel selection may be limited in town, so a nearby agriturismo might be a good solution.

There is an interesting Etruscan museum in Piombino and the town is larger with more services and a seaside setting for walks - it would combine well with a visit to the Archaeological Park of Baratti and Populonia: https://www.apathtolunch.com/2018/03/italian-time-travel-from-tuscan-to.html

In Rome there is also the great National Etruscan Museum of Villa Giulia.

Posted by
4384 posts

Pitigliano is so close to Sorano/Sovana there would be no need to change hotels. I would stay places at least a few hours apart.

Posted by
72 posts

The advise about Sorano, Sovana and Pitigliano are much appreciated. This seems like an area that gets fewer tourists, which basically a blessing from our point of view. But unlike time in the remote villages of Switzerland, Austria and Germany, last year, or even France and the UK from years past, it seems that southern Tuscany, despite its beauty, is an area that few tourists, local or foreign, visit. So your insights are really valuable and will help me make wise choices.

I was also planning to spend a few nights in Sutri, to enjoy the Farnese Castle, Boromeo and Ronciglione, as well as Sutri and the archaelogical sites near there. Sutri looks like it is large enough to have good restaurants, a farmers' market and lodging, but it seems like a work-a-day place rather than one of the beautiful villages of Tuscany. A video has me wondering if I should change my homebase for the northern Lazio region.