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Florentine - Chianina Beef

Hi all,
(I'm a bit embarrassed at having to ask this question)

I've been fortunate enough to have visited Florence, Venice, Verona and Rome at least three times each since 1992. I've been lucky enough to have stayed in Sienna, Montepulciano, Montalcino, Pienza, Lucca, Pisa, Naples, Cinque Terre, Alba, and Barolo, as well. In all those times, I've never ordered the Chianina steak. I can only eat steak cooked "medium" or "medium-well-" as I just can't stomach it "rare," as it is traditionally served in Tuscany. I've ordered steak at numerous steak houses in Boston, Chicago, Miami, San Fran., Paris, etc. over the years, because I know I can order it "medium" and if its too rare, I can send it back to the kitchen.

However, I'm visiting Florence again for what may be the last time in my life in mid-November, 2025, and I feel compelled to try the Chianina steak. I'm a believer of the old adage that "when in Rome, do as Romans do." However, the idea of paying $ 60 US (or more) for a steak that can only be served "rare" bothers me. I've read several blogs that have said "you can only get steak rare in Tuscany."

My question is this: for those of you that have been in Florence since 2015, can you actually send a Chianina steak back to the kitchen if it is served to "rare" and demand that it be cooked more? Or does the staff just treat you as an ignorant tourist and say "sorry, this is how it is done in Tuscany." [Personally, I'm also a firm believer in the old adage that the customer is [almost] always right AND that, as Meg Ryan said in "When Harry Met Sally," "I want it the way I want it."].

Thanks,

Posted by
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I've only eaten it once, and it's something I won't forget. It was really THAT good. I dont eat steak rare, but they didn't even blink when we ordered it medium rare. And it came to us cooked just as we asked and it was very flavourful and tender. Now I can certainly see a chef refusing to cook such a gorgeous piece of beef well done. But if you go to a restaurant frequented by Americans, you likely won't have a problem with ordering it medium. They will be more used to people insisting on food just the way they get it at home.

The American adage of "the customer is always right" doesnt fly well in Europe, or much of the rest of the world for that matter. DH was once almost refused service when he tried to order lamb chops well done (can't remember which country it was). The server said the chef would refuse to cook them that way. DH, being the smart man that he is, then asked that they be cooked how the chef recommended. They came rare and tasted perfect.

Posted by
1694 posts

I vaguely remember seeing a program, part of the Stanley Tucci series where he visited a ranch that raised this type of beef cattle. They talked about only cooking it rare because cooking it longer toughens up the meat. I can’t imagine paying that much for a dinner only to be presented with a piece of leather. Any good chef is not going to serve something he knows will be a disaster just because the customer insists they want something done their way!

Posted by
17077 posts

Although the Fiorentina is generally done with the Chianina, however it is also done with high quality breeds other than the Chianina, for example the Piemontese. The Fiorentina describes the cut, not the breed. The cut is the T bone steak approximately in the middle of the animal, which must be about 2 inches thick. I doubt that a prestigious restaurant would cook it well done, as its reputation would be at stake (or maybe I should say “at steak”). Maybe you can ask medium rare (cottura Media al sangue) ma it will be pink and somewhat rare in the middle. That is the tradition and also the meat would lose its traditional tenderness and juiciness if cooked longer. That is especially true with the Chianina, an animal that is huge and muscular as it was originally bred as a working animal to pull heavy loads, not for meat consumption. My suggestion is to share it with several people as it is a huge chunk of meat that can easily fill 3 people or even more, if you just want to taste it. If you can only stomach steak that is well done, or even medium done, then don’t order it. Just taste a bite from someone else in your party eating with you.

Posted by
67 posts

If you order it with several people, and if you can wait before diving in- say, if you had a good pasta ragu as a starter- the meat that is served to you will rise in temperature as it sits on the table- it will be less red (its not blood, btw, that's all been drained) after 15 minutes, more to your liking. I have had this dish twice in italy, it never disappoints.

Posted by
156 posts

Thank you all for the responses, they are much appreciated . I'm really inclined to give it a shot.

John

Posted by
181 posts

Theirs is not blood. Eat the steak the way the chef prepares it. It’s delicious.