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Florence vs. Siena - Itinerary Question

Looking for input on our current plan for 5 days in Siena.

We wrap up an Italian Ocean Cruise in early May, 2024. After disembarking in Civitavecchia, we plan to take a train to Lucca. We will then spend 14 nights in Tuscany before heading to Rome for 4 nights. We will be traveling via train/bus but will rent a car for the stay in Montepulciano.

Below is what we are considering (have the hotels booked but can modify):

Lucca - 2 nights (catch Puccini Concert)
Siena - 5 nights (day trips to Florence and Chianti region wineries)
Montepulciano - 7 nights (Agriturismo stay - will have a car)
Rome - 4 nights

The question I have - instead of basing out of Siena and taking a day trip(s) to Florence, should we split the 5 nights between Florence and Siena? What would you recommend in terms of splitting the time between the two? In Florence we would want to hit at least the Accademia; Uffizi Gallery; Duomo; Food Tour; and the wine windows.

Guidance is greatly appreciated!

Thank you in advance!

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Stay in Florence and take a day trip to Sienna. Florence easily needs 3-5 days to even touch the surface.

We based in Florence and used WalkAboutFlorence for two day trips into Tuscany - one was the BEST OF TUSCANY tour -- and the other was CHIANTI WINE & FOOD SAFARI tour - both very good. Then you still get 3 full days in Florence. Or you could hire a private guide out of Florence for a day trip.

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If you have never been to Florence before, stay in Florence instead of Siena. You can't see Florence in a day.

Visit Siena from Florence (75 min by bus or 90 min by train) and/or from Montepulciano (1 hr drive). A full day is enough for Siena.

Since I presume you will rent a car in Florence, you can drive the Chianti Road from Florence to Montepulciano (via Siena). Takes longer than the A1 freeway (a couple of hours plus pit stops to Siena, then another hour to Montepulciano), but it will be a nice drive.

You can also visit Chianti from Florence on a small group organized wine tasting tour, in case you prefer not to drink and drive. The Chianti area is exactly between Florence and Siena.

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We liked both Siena and Florence, quite a bit. We were in Siena two nights and we sure enjoyed being there at night and appreciated being there longer than a day. There is plenty to see.

That said, three nights in Florence isn't really enough for such a great city. Still, with the time you have, my preference would be to split it between Florence and Siena. If you don't want to split the five nights, then, IMHO, your best next option is to stay in Florence and day trip to Siena.

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I think it depends on how you envision your trip going. It's perfectly fair to want a portion of your trip to be relaxed without so much get-up-and-go. If you've already visited Florence, dislike crowds and noise, aren't super into art and history, have mobility issues or just find great joy in relaxing with a glass of wine overlooking rolling hills for many hours a day, then Siena would be a great place. My vision of a great trip is getting out and seeing beautiful art & historical buildings, walking streets lined with countless shops and outrageous eateries, and soaking up a variety of churches, monasteries, and open-air markets. We love walking miles and miles a day so we can eat, eat, eat. My teen and I climbed the campanile (bell tower) and cupola (dome) within an hour of each other, walked to our hotel in the Oltrarno, all the way up to San Miniato for evening vespers, Palazzo Vecchio area for dinner, then back to our hotel near Santo Spirito...easy day. Siena can be "seen" in a day, and without a car, unless you're staying right near the restaurants you want to patronize, you have to take taxis or mess with a bus schedule to get anywhere else. To get the beautiful views, we would have had to stay outside of town, and it would be more of a nuisance to get anywhere (and always a 2.5- to 3.5-hr round trip bus ride to see Florence). Our family (plus the in-laws) is returning to Tuscany this March, and we had to make this exact decision. We initially booked 5 days in Rome, 3 days in Florence. Instead of tacking on 3 extra days in Siena, we got a different (cheaper) VRBO in Florence from which we will make our base for day trips to Pisa and Siena and seeing more of the city we left uncovered.

We stayed in the Oltrarno last March, and it was still really close to all the attractions. We did 3 days and still could not see it all. This time we're staying near the Duomo and will enjoy being even closer to our room to put our feet up, use the restroom (without paying to eat somewhere), refill our water bottles, and charge our phones from all of the pictures we took, directions and hours we needed to look up, digital menus, digital ticketing, etc that drained our battery. There was also far more to do during the day and so much more to do until all hours of the night (and many free churches and museums with a nominal fee). I could spend a month in Florence and never get tired of it.

If you want to save on lodging in Florence, pick an attic apartment on VRBO without an elevator. For 6 people with 3 bedrooms, 2 baths (private loggia & slight view of Duomo), we are spending less than $250/night with taxes and fees. Our first 3 days in Florence we're on the 2nd story with a lift and are spending $580/night. On our last visit to Florence, we paid $250/night for 2 people (1 noisy hotel room on a piazza--will never make that mistake again). In Siena, we found rooms for $110/night for 2 people, $150 for 4 at lovely wine estates with great views on the property.

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Hello

My wife and I were in Italy for a just over a week, the first week of October.
We had been to Italy for several short (week long) visits, and had not seen Siena or the hill towns, etc.
So we stayed at an excellent agriturismo (sp?) outside of Siena and did a daytrips to all the places we wanted to see.

My wife never wants to have that much driving on winding roads again.
We live in flat Minnesota and have fast journeys. No driving trip in the Italian hill country is "short" (overstatement, but...)
I liked the driving but the time it takes to get places really adds up.

We flew home out of Florence so we stayed there the last two nights.
We had been there before and thought (before hand) that our ratio was ok.
We walked around Florence, seeing things we hadn't seen before, wishing we had time to even see stuff we HAD seen before. It is a good town to walk around - we walked a ton.

BACK TO SIENA
we only did one long daytrip to Siena and could easily have wandered it more. We got there early and stayed till dark, but I don't feel like we missed as much as at Florence.
But I'd like to have sat or slowly strolled more than we did.

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Thank you everyone for the extremely helpful feedback! Florence it is! Now to find a hotel! 🙂

Posted by
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It sounds like you've already made up your mind, but I have an alternative suggestion.

Can you cut the agriturismo from 7 nights to 6? If so, I'd do 2 nights in Siena and 4 nights in Florence.

I think Siena is absolutely worth a couple of nights. My favorite time of day to be in Siena was evening. You can do your sightseeing during the day and then just wander the streets at night and have a late dinner.

Also, seeing Siena before Florence makes a great deal of sense historically. Siena got frozen in the Middle Ages; Florence flourished in the Renaissance. If you spend some time in Siena before you go to Florence, you will see Florence in a whole new light.

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It can't be overstated how different are Florence and Siena. The Renaissance was a late arrival to the latter city. And throngs of tourists aside, Florence has the feel of a much bigger city than it actually is. One question is how much you enjoy waking up in the same place for a few days, and having a stand-up breakfast in the local Bar, with the locals, then starting a leisurely day of walking and visiting. I personally prefer the art in Florence.

You need to make sure you can make your wine trips without a car for the days you don't have one. (I turned down much of the wine, because I was the driver.) But I'm talking about reservation, payment, and transportation, not so much about impaired driving and law enforcement. There were some wineries where, despite their glamor and flash, we did not enjoy our visit, like Antinori. We eat our large meal for lunch, so we went to some winery-restaurants for superb wine-lunches, prepaid and non-cancellable. Then we just had bar snacks at the hotel for dinner.

You might want to see if there are some days available when the cathedral floor in Siena is uncovered for viewing. It's mostly protected all year. Advance reservations for museums and monasteries are essential in both big destinations. I imagine it's already hot in May.