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Florence and Rome and tours

Hi all -
Getting closer to our trip to Florence and Rome, I'm trying to finalize how we will see all the great sites. We are a family of 4 with two teens and we have never been to Italy. Will be in Florence 2 days and Rome for 3 1/2. I have an idea of places to go and I'm guessing that we won't want to spend a huge amount of time in any one location but as newbies I am debating whether it is best to do a small group tour so we can get some explanation as we go through these locations? I don't want to overbook the tours but we want to get value out of our visit and I'm afraid if we explore more or less on our own we will miss out. On the other hand given we don't have a lot of time I hate to get stuck in a place that isn't of interest for too long which could happen in a group tour.

Lastly, for those places where advance tickets and skip the line entry (e.g., Coliseum, etc) it may be easier for planning purposes to use a tour guide with these components included?
Thank you!

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Unless you and your teenagers are big into research and your teens love hearing their parents teach them about places they are going, I would make sure to use a careful selection of tours/guides in strategic places. You are going to have to be very selective about what you are going to see. The truth is, unless you get on a tour with shopping, that tours are often a good use of time and that one can appreciate what is being seen more with the background information.

I think you may want to have a family planning meeting and ascertain what are the top 2 experiences or locations for each family member on this trip. You will want to make sure to focus in on these with such limited time. Don't try to see everything in these cities.

Rick Steves does have some free audio podcasts that might be an alternative to a guide, but if you really want your teenagers to understand and appreciate what they are seeing, a live guide may be best.

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Rick has some walking tours in his guidebooks; there's a book for Rome and a book for Florence/Tuscany as well as the full-country Italy book. Since your stay is short, you probably don't need more than "Italy", which would be less expensive than buying the other two books. Do be aware that opening days and hours of sights are still in flux, so you'll need to go to the websites Rick has in his books to get the latest information on places you want to see. Some sights change their hours as the months go on, winter to spring to summer, so do pay attention to the details.

To get Rick's audio walking tours, download Rick Steves Audio Europe from the Google Play Store or Apple's equivalent. Then add the tours you're interested in. He has five tours for Florence and nine for Rome. At least some of those tours would probably be worth listening to for historical background before you even get on the plane.

I do not equate a recorded walking tour with having a live guide, but I think you're right to be cautious about overloading on tours, especially when there are children in the mix. Some tours can be quite expensive, too. I do think a recent suggestion that the Roman Forum is a very good place to have a tour is smart. When you're looking at ruins like that, it can be difficult to understand what you're seeing without someone to explain. And of course you can ask questions of a guide.

I don't believe it's generally difficult to buy online tickets in advance yourself, and a timed online ticket is automatically a "skip-the-line" ticket. Everyone has to go through whatever security procedures the sight has implemented. I confess that I haven't yet purchased my first online sightseeing ticket for Italy, though, so there may be wrinkles I'm not aware of. I do have a general tip: Failed online purchases can be due to your credit card's security procedures. If you have a problem, call the number on the back of your card and tell them what purchase(s) you're trying to make in Italy; they may ask the expected amounts of the purchases. If that still doesn't solve the problem, try a different credit card. Sometimes switching devices (PC to tablet to smartphone) helps, but I believe most issues are related to credit cards.

Sightseeing tickets tend not to be changeable or refundable, so timing of ticket purchases is sort of a balancing act. You don't want to miss out on seeing a place on your target list (or to have to buy an expensive tour to get in), but you don't want to commit a bunch of money up front and then perhaps have to delay or cancel the trip.

If you want to see the Vatican Museums (which include the Sistine Chapel), you should check ticket availability for your Rome dates now if you're traveling fairly soon. That might be something you need to jump on right away. This is a place that can be mind-blowingly crowded (though probably not as bad as usual just at the moment). The usual advice is to take a tour (costs extra) that gets you into the museums before they open to the general public or to go late in the afternoon on Friday or Saturday, when they are open late (that doesn't cost extra). When I looked at tickets for late April yesterday, there was little available before late afternoon (not desirable on the days when the museums close at 6 PM). In other words, it was looking really tight.

Edited to add: Here's the ticket website for the Vatican Museums: https://tickets.museivaticani.va/home/calendar/visit/Biglietti-Musei

If you just want to see St. Peter's Basilica, that is free.

When is your trip? Is it during Holy Week? There will be a lot of extra people traveling then, looking for tickets to things. Demand may also be higher the week after Easter. And then it's practically May, when demand always increases.

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@acraven, thank you for the info. we will be in Italy the first week of April, arriving in Rome Apr 5 (via train from Florence) and leaving on Apr 9. I'm thinking a few 2 - 3 hour tours may be the way to go, so we aren't overbooked each day and yet we are getting some subject matter expertise which I think will be much needed.

It looks like there's a 9 am "Skip-the-Line Group Tour of the Vatican, Sistine Chapel & St. Peter's Basilica" on the 8th but I see what you're saying as it looks like the other times have sold out already so I better jump on that soon if we want to go!

I appreciate the advice!

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We took our daughter to Italy the summer after she finished 6th grade and she said she really enjoyed the group tour of the Vatican Museums.

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That is not an early-access tour. It gets you into the Vatican Museums at the same time as people with regular (21-euro) entry tickets for the first general-admission time slot; the Museums open at 9 AM unless you have an "early-access" ticket or tour. That tour may be what's right for you; I don't relish getting up early when I'm on vacation myself. But you're going to find it much more crowded than it would be if you opted for the Vatican's Breakfast Visit, which starts at 7:45 AM and costs 39 euros per person (don't know whether there's a discount for the youngsters) and includes some sort of breakfast. An audio guide (which you might well want since the regular Breakfast Visit deal doesn't include a live guide) is an extra 7 euros per person. I think 39 euros is a really good deal; just 18 euros more than the basic entry fee, and you get some sort of breakfast and have to fight with far fewer people, especially in the Sistine Chapel.

The Vatican also has a Prime Experience option that starts at 7:30 AM and includes a guide for the two-hour tour as well as the breakfast. That costs 63 euros per person (again, there might be a discount for children) and includes an audio guide, which you could use if you wanted to continue exploring after the guided tour and breakfast. (Two hours might be plenty for the kids, though.)

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I took tours in Rome, but if you don’t, be sure to get some sort of timed entry to the colosseum and if you want to see the Sistine Chapel, get as early an entrybas possible. I used Walks of Italy for both