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Combo driving/train on trip from Milan to Venice/Verona to Florence ending in Rome?

Hi -

I'm trying to plan a trip for my family (2 adults, a tween and a teen). It's the family's first trip to Italy. We're thinking at least 2 weeks, but we might be able to squeeze out another few days. We want to do a lot so plan to fly into Milan and fly out of Rome because it's the most cost effective. We do not plan on spending much (or any) time in Milan before heading to Venice. We would like to stop in to Verona for the opera festival and can go either on our way to Venice or as a trip during or after our time there. We would then like to head down to Florence and Rome as our home bases for the rest of the trip using both of those cities as our home base while we do other side trips too (Assisi, Pompeii, Montepulciano, etc.). My question - we know that a car offers us more options in terms of those side trips, and possibly going from city to city, but we also know that sometimes train is better. Does anyone have advice about whether or how to grapple with both a car and the train? Or if we rent a car in Milan and then use it for Verona and to get to Venice, do we park it somewhere? Return it for our Venice leg and rent another later? Maybe after getting to Florence/Tuscany via train? Just trying to get down to the brass tacks of the least pain in the neck way to do things. And the answer might be car only. Or a combination - but what would that combination look like?

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Welcome!

I'd take train to all of your locations. Much easier, no hassles with parking, ZTLs. No worries about leaving luggage in the car.
Less expensive and quicker.

Milan to Verona- you don't have to spend any time in Milan- go right to Verona.
Verona to Venice
Venice to Florence
Florence to Rome

All fast trains.

The only place listed that you might want/need a car is Montepulciano. If you plan to spend any overnights IN Tuscany countryside/hilltowns- get a car as you leave Florence- return in Rome or before Rome.

Train to Pompeii from Rome and this is a brutal day trip so you 'll need to consider that as well.

You have a LOT of places listed for just a 2 week trip.

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I would recommend sticking with a train, especially if you are staying in Venice, Florence, and Rome. It is easy to get to Verona by train. Venice you can't drive in the city, so you would be paying for parking. Florence is challenging to drive in with so many different ZTL zones and I have not summoned the courage yet to drive in Rome and I haven't had to.

Your Tuscany part of the trip is trickier without a car. For that you have a few options, you can rent a car for a day trip or you can hire a private guide/driver to visit the parts of Tuscany you want to see. You can also join a tour.

For Assisi, it is a long day, but you could drive to Montepulciano and then to Assisi and back to Florence (about 6 hours RT driving), you could take a train from Florence or Rome, both are about 2.5 hours.

You can do a day trip (a long one) from Rome to Pompeii by train or take a tour.

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You are right, you need a car only In Tuscany. Get the car When you are ready to leave Florence, to spend some time in the countryside.

You have already figured out why: It makes no sense to Drive to Venice along one of the most congested Italian motorways only to Leave the car parked on the mainland. Nobody drives through the mountains between Venice and Florence since high speed trains run at 250 kph under the mountains.

Do not try to drive into any city without a permit, all historic centers are inside camera enforced ZTL areas these days. Florence' ZTL is notorious, but it's not the only one.

2 mumblings you can ignore:

  1. Even if you put the Scala Opera House, the Brera Museum, the Duomo's roof and Last Supper aside for a minute... I wouldn't miss the opportunity of an Aperitivo in Milan's Navigli district with my teens before they grow up and start having their aperitivos without me. It's one of those things kids remember more than museums and churches.
  2. Even before the summer heat, Assisi and Pompeii are too far from Rome for a day trip. You could visit Ostia Antica and/or the Domus Aurea instead. Or stay a couple of days in Sorrento and go to Pompeii from there by local train. If you Stay in Sorrento after Easter, You can easily take a ferry ride to Capri, or do a quick visit to the Roman villa buried under Positano.
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Day trips, Florence to Montepulciano is fine but you may want to stay in Tuscany outside of Florence. I highly recommend a stay in Tuscan countryside as your itinerary is totally urban. And a car is needed for Tuscany. Rent the car as you leave Florence, easy as car pick up locations are near the Autostrada.
Forget Pompeii for this trip to Rome and north; save it for a trip to Southern Italy.
We always have rented cars in Italy except for the big cities.

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Thanks all - this is really helpful!

We are experienced travelers but haven't done any international travel since 2019. I agree that it is an aggressive agenda, but with one theater loving tween and one archeology and geography loving tween, both of whom are dying to get back out again, we have to figure out a way to squeeze in Pompeii, one leaning tower and at least one opera. For what it's worth, we are really ok with long travel days. But with a little poking around, it looks like the Rome to Pompeii thing might be best done with a guide/high speed train?

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Another one for the Take the Train, then rent the car at the end.
If you're into big time saints, rather than Assisi, which is out of the way, 44 minutes on a FrecceRosso from Verona gets you St. Anthony's Cathedral with the bonus of (at the other end of the old town) the Scrovegni Chapel. Nice urban day trip between Venice and Verona, or the other way around.

PS- Any mention of Venice, Verona, Padua makes me think of this song from Kiss Me Kate, which makes me wonder what the Rickniks would think of Cole Porter's routing: Venice, Verona, Cremona, Parma, Mantua, Padua and back to Venice. I mean, I'd hit Padua on the way to Verona, and then go from Mantua to Bologna for departure. Easier airport than Venice, and less backtracking. I might even skip the Mantua gig, and try to pick one up in Modena. Messes up the rhymes, but a better itinerary.

Sorry for the long side trip. ADHD is a hell of a way to live.