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Best stop(s) between Ventimiglia and Genoa?

Hi!
This August I will be exploring Ligurian villages for eventual retirement… I am arriving in Nice on Aug 2 and will have a week to explore until I have to be in Valencia, Spain on Aug 8 (probably will fly out of Genoa.)

Should I pick a place midway and stay there all week, or stay in different towns every day?

I only travel with a backpack but it’s still a pain to drag it around all day if I’ll be on the go. I likely will have a car.

What do you think would be more efficient - heading east slowly all week or have a home base midway and venture from it daily? Or something else?

And - which villages would you recommend to stay in? The smaller the better. Must be on the water.

Thanks!

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If you pick up the rental car in Nice and return it at GOA airport you will pay hundreds of €uro in one international drop off fees. So you will save if you drive back to Nice, return the car and fly out of NCE. You can also take a train somewhere into Italy, pick up a rental car in Italy and return it in Italy. Both Savona and Genoa have rental,car offices from the major rental car companies.

On the Riviera di Ponente (western riviera, i.e. west of Genoa ) some nice places are Laigueglia, Varigotti, Cervo.
On the Riviera di Levante (eastern riviera), I like Camogli, Sestri, Moneglia, and of course the Cinque Terre, just to name a few.

If you are planning to retire in Italy know that there are huge tax implications if you become a resident for over 6 months in a calendar year. Income taxes are high in Italy (tax rates are 35% for global income over €28,000 ($32k) and 43% for incomes above €50,000 ($58k), under €28,000 the rate is 23%. Also there are no standard deductions therefore you don’t deduct anything upfront. If you are not an Italian citizen, your public pensions (like Soc.Sec.) are exempt and will be taxed by the US government. The above are the rules according to the bilateral tax treaty between US and Italy.
If you want to save on taxes the way to go is to retire in a southern Region (Abruzzo, Molise, Campania, Puglia, Basilicata, Calabria, Sicily, Sardinia) but in a municipality with less than 20,000 population in any of those Southern regions. If you make that choice Italy offers 9 years of tax free status.

There is also the “Uncle Scrooge tax regime for multimillionaires”. In such regime you pay €250,000 every year and you are done. If you make a couple of millions a year it’s a good deal.

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Grazie.
Yes, I’ve tentatively got a car in Sanremo and will drop off on Genoa.

I will live in Liguria when I retire. I absolutely prefer the north to the south, and I want to be a couple hours from Torino (Forza Juve!). I understand the visa and tax situation and am planning for it.

For this trip, I’m staying the first night in Ventimiglia, and will head east. I just am not sure if I should have a home base or stay one night in each place as I head toward Genoa.

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As long as you are aware of Visa and tax rules you will be fine.

I don’t generally like one nighters, so in your shoes I’d probably choose a base or more than one, especially if you plan to take a look at possible living arrangements once you retire. Any of the towns I mentioned you should like. If you want to be closer to Torino than the Eastern Riviera is probably better for you. The fastest way to Turin is the freeway from Savona, so look into Noli as well. It’s a pretty town.

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Thanks. I typically do one-night stays but I’m reconsidering this time. I want to see so many villages - but I was there two years ago and used the train (because I hope not to have to get a car once i’m there) and it was a hassle carrying my bag everywhere en route to my next town.
I loved Noli! I could probably live there but I do want to check out Laigueglia, Varigotti and others. I felt like Cervo was a little too far out. The CT is too far south — but honestly, what Im looking for is a town just like Vernazza bit further north and not as crazy. I first visited there in 1994, back when it was pretty genuine still.
Thanks for the ideas.
Where are you in the Bay Area? I am between Sonoma County and Az right now.

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I wish you the best and will be so eager to learn what you decide, and how the trip goes.

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San Remo, Albenga, Finale Borgo, and Savona all have classic Italian centers with full services. Albenga & Finale have both beach communities and charming inland historic communities. In August many rentals near the water are booked well in advance.

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Thanks Mike. August booking was another concern if I decide to stay in multiple places. I may stay in Finale Ligure or around Alassio and venture out from there, to simplify things.

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A fine point - consider the drive times for your day trips when deciding on a base as the Ligurian geography impedes east-west travel. The autostrada A10/E80 has limited interchanges so a trip from Alassio eastbound would have you getting on the A10 Albenga entrance.

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Mike - that’s my conundrum. Either I have a car and have to deal with parking and autostrada/drive time, or go by train and am hemmed in by train schedules and walking from each station into town. Ugh!
I’m usually so decisive. Not sure why I can’t commit one way or the other on this. I have a car reserved but could cancel.

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By Italian standards, driving and parking in Liguria is not so hard for drivers with experience. The towns are generally smaller and less dense and the parking restrictions manageable. The centers of the bigger cities have affordable parking facilities, and the ZTLs are where you don't want to drive anyway. I like to look around an unknown area with Google Street View to imagine better.