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Here is our itinerary, for late October - early November.

Milan to Varenna

Varenna to Cinque Terre

CT to Florence

Florence to Naples (then to Sorrento by Circumvesiano)

Naples to Rome

I am still confused about which train segments can be purchased in advance, and which ones we can just purchase at the station on the day of travel. Am I correct in thinking that I need only purchase the Florence/Naples and Naples/Rome segments ahead of time?

Posted by
5687 posts

There are really two types of trains: regional trains and non-regional trains. Regional trains don't have reserved seats and can't sell out (if every seat is taken, people can stand) - and cost the same no matter when you buy the tickets. Non-regional trains - the IntertCity trains and faster ones, with seat reservations - can sell out, in theory (but in November?), and you should expect the prices for the cheapest tickets on these to go up the closer you get to departure, because the cheapest seats tend to sell out early. If you don't care about the prices, you can probably book most or all of these trains at the very last minute and just pay full price - unless they happen to sell out. Maybe on a busy holiday weekend or something...probably unlikely otherwise.

Posted by
4152 posts

You don't need to purchase anything in advance. The reason to purchase in advance is to take advantage of the big discounts for doing so. If you plan to purchase ahead of time you should only purchase your high speed train tickets and not any regional tickets.

Your only high speed trips will be Florence to Naples and Naples to Rome.

Donna

Posted by
5687 posts

You can certainly purchase the regional tickets ahead of time, too, if your days and times are pretty fixed. But you won't save any money, can't change them if you get to Italy and need to change your plans or something. Buying regional tickets ahead of time saves you no money but saves you the inconvenience of needing to buy them later, at the station from a machine or from an agent or using your phone, etc.

Posted by
5697 posts

And, in fact, we bought same-day Naples>Rome tickets last month at the Naples station after we finished seeing the National Archaeological Museum -- cost was not that much, and we didn't have to worry about cutting our touring short or rushing to meet a pre-set schedule.

Posted by
32325 posts

Terri,

As the others have mentioned, you don't "need" to pre-purchase any of the tickets, but if you want to save some money you could buy the Florence - Naples and Naples - Rome tickets in advance as those will be via Freccia high speed trains. However one important point to note is that the tickets will be specific to train, date and departure time, so can ONLY be used on the one train listed on the ticket. If you miss that train for any reason, your tickets are worthless and you'll have to buy more at full price (Base Fare).

A few notes on the other routes you mentioned.....

  • Milan to Varenna - that's a Regionale so not necessary to buy in advance as there are never any discounts. If using locally purchased Regionale tickets, these MUST be validated prior to boarding the train on the day of travel, or you'll risk hefty fines which will be collected on the spot! Are you taking that train immediately after arriving at MXP? If that's the case, you'll also be using the Malpensa Express from the airport to Milano Centrale.
  • Varenna to Cinque Terre - the first segment from Varenna to Milano Centrale will be Regionale. You might want to buy your ticket for that segment prior to going to Varenna as the station isn't staffed (although it's also possible to buy tickets in Varenna at the helpful Tivano Tours office). From Milano Centrale to the Cinque Terre may be Regionale or one of the express trains, depending on which trains you decide to use. The express trains have compulsory seat reservations.
  • Cinque Terre to Florence - that trip will probably require at least one change in La Spezia or Pisa (or both). The trains will typically be a combination of Regionale or Express, or just Regionale. On this route it's just as easy to buy tickets locally as you won't save much with pre-purchased tickets for the Express trains.
  • Florence to Naples - this trip will be via high speed Freccia train, so you could certainly buy your tickets now. You could also use the competing Italo Treno on that route. Note that to connect with the Circumvesuviana, you'll need to go downstairs to the Garibaldi Station in Naples (watch your luggage on that train as it has a bit of a "reputation"). I'm not sure the Campania Express will be operating at that time of year, but that would be a better option than the Circumvesuviana.
  • Naples to Rome - again, take the high speed Freccia or Italo trains on this route, using advance tickets if you wish.

Which of the five Cinque Terre towns are you planning to stay in? You'll need to know that when you buy tickets, as the "Cinque Terre" is not a rail destination as such. One point to mention is that some of the tourist businesses start to shut down for the season at that time of the year, so booking a hotel in advance would be a really good idea.

You can buy tickets for both Trenitalia and Italo Treno on the www.trainline.eu website. Once registered on the site, it's very user friendly.

Posted by
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Thanks, everyone, for the great info. Guess I can stop obsessing about it now! :-)