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Ahh Florence!

Since there were so many awesome suggestions for my Rome itinerary I decided to throw out my Siena Florence ones! You're excited I know. Siena really wasn't a big one so we can gloss over it.

Day 1 - Siena
Arrive around 10:30 by train and get checked in. Didn't have a plan other then to walk around and visit Pizza Del Campo, Palazzo Pubblico, Torre del Mangia, Biblioteca Piccolomini, Church of San Domenico, Piazza Salmbeni, Baptistry of Santo Maria Assunta, Fonte Gaia and cap the night at Jazz bar Un Tuba.

Day 2- We hired a private driver to go to Volterra for a few hours, then lunch at a winery, then visit San Gimignano and back to Siena. Another night cap in the Campo

Now the heavy hitter.. Florence

Day 1 - Florence
We have a private transfer that will pick us up at 8am and drive us to Pisa. Spend just an hour or two here then to Florence. We will be in Florence around 1 or 2 pm. Our BnB is right on the Piazza Della Signoria. So we plan on that, Piazza della Repubblica, Ponte Vecchio and pet the Bronze Boar! Could Probably do more?

Day 2 - Florence
-Galleria Accademia in morning
-Dumo (Cathedral of Santa Maria del Fiore)
-Baptistry
-Gittios Bell Tower?
-Museo Medico
-Basilica di San Lorenzo
-Uffizi Gallery
-End at the Piazza Michelangelo

Day 3 - Florence
-Di Vinci Museum
-Mercato Centrale
-Santa Maria Novella
-Museo Nazinole Bargollo
-Palazzo Pitti

Fire away with suggestions. I received so much great info for Rome!

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Florence Day 2 is a heavy hitter within a heavy hitter. Is lunch factored in there, somewhere? Not that you’d want to do this, or if it’s even going to be available, but a few years ago, we booked a Uffizi tour that also included the Vasari Corridor. It was the secret, private passageway the Medici used to commute between home and work, without mingling with the masses, and also makes up the second floor of the Ponte Vecchio buildings. Our tour started in the Uffizi and ended at the Pitti Palace, a convenient way to get around, if the Pitti is also on your agenda. When we did it, the long corridor was lined with self portraits by masters from the past 5 centuries. It was then closed for refurbishing, and the huge collection paintings were removed. I believe it’s set for reopening again by tour only, but what’s now inside the corridor, how long that lasts, and at what price, you’d need to research.

One thing that doesn’t appear to be on your extensive list of sights is the Brancacci Chapel, among my must see things in Florence. The frescoes are amazing, and the peaceful setting is a really helpful break in a heavy sightseeing day. My last trip, I went there twice. If you can fit it in, I’d hope it would be among the highlights of your time in Florence, too.

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Ay-ay-ay, kursed, you certainly are an overachiever! 😉

If you try and do Day 2 as listed, you (and your feet) may not survive to see Day 3. Granted, Florence's historic center is more compact than Rome's but what you have here is one very intense day on your dogs. A couple of comments...

Firstly, is your trip this July (2021)? If so, you can eliminate the interior of the baptistry as it's closed for restoration. I'd personally skip climbing the bell tower, and have never seen Museo de' Medici (what you meant as "Museo Medico"?) as a top-of-list attraction, at least not when having limited time. What IS missing is the excellent Museo dell'Opera del Duomo, another part of the duomo's complex. It sees excellent reviews, and is something we never would have skipped except that it was closed for renovation during our last visit. It's a gotta-do for next time!

The entrance line for the cathedral itself is usually very long so will eat some time. We were much more impressed with the exterior than interior so something to think about there? Basilica San Lorenzo: that's another one I'd put aside for a trip with more time. You were intending to include the Medici Chapels with that one?

But here's a another suggestion: Take Palazzo Pitti right off your Day 3: it's a REAL time suck to try and do all of its parts, and another one best left, IMHO, for a visit with more days to work with. I'm an art geek and MY eyes were crossed halfway through the 28 rooms of the Palatine Gallery/Royal Apartments! That doesn't include the rest of the complex. Then consider a re-group of both days roughly by area, say....

Day 2:
Uffizi (this is a very large museum; plan for adequate time)
Bargello
Duomo
Duomo Museum
Santa Maria Novella

Day 3:
Basilica San Lorenzo/Medici Chapels
Mercado Centrale
Accademia
Museo di San Marco:
https://www.visitflorence.com/florence-museums/san-marco.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museo_Nazionale_di_San_Marco
Piazza della Santissima Annunziata; as a walk-though but read up on it:
If time permits, stop into at least the entry cloister of Basilica della Santissima Annunziata on this piazza to see the frescoes.
https://www.visitflorence.com/florence-monuments/piazza-ss-annunziata.html
Museo Leonardo Da Vinci

Leave Piazza Michelangelo as a floater; could even do that one on your Day 1 if weather permits. I've put San Marco in place of the Pitti as it's a really nice museum -much more easily digested than the Pitti - and the monks' cells with Fra Angelico frescoes are lovely. This is also an important bit of Florentine history as the 'home' of Girolamo Savonarola, and Cosimo de’Medici's private cells for personal prayer. Anyway, lots of good reasons to include this one.

This is still a very ambitious plan, and still very museum heavy but, well, that's also what Florence does best. I'd advise making one attraction from each list a can-miss-if-necessary. You will, of course; have to research the open days/hours of all of the above.

Editing to add; You'll hate me again (HA!) but honestly, I'd skip Pisa to be able to see Firenze at less than breakneck speed.

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So Pisa was originally going to be a day drip but I thought it would be better to hit it on the way. 3 of the group want to see and 3 of us didn't really care so compromise. I can move/drop some stuff. We just started adding things. lol. I do know that both Accademia and Uffizi are closed Monday so those will need to be done our first two days. I was thinking of moving Accademia to out arrival date. As far as the Medici stuff...that is a must. The wife/boss and my mother were both HUGE fans of the show so they want to see anything that deals with them. Having never been to Florence I had know idea how long some of this stuff will take to see. And yes, this is for July 2021. 8 weeks. My mom is really excited.

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Ah, I figured the (somewhat fictionalized) series had something to do with the choices. :O) That said, I'd still skip Museo Medici in favor of San Marco, as an actual Medici never set a richly-shod foot in the place?

http://www.museodemedici.com/about.html
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g187895-d17654137-Reviews-Museo_de_Medici-Florence_Tuscany.html

But I get it: happy wife; happy life, eh?

Editing to add: this structure has more to do with the Medici family than the other museum. It has been heavily altered since any of the Medici featured in the series lived there but the Chapel of the Magi and Benozzo Gozzoli's frescoes (featured in series) still exist.

http://www.palazzomediciriccardi.it/en/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magi_Chapel

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Does your mother really have this much energy? I know those itineraries would be more of an endurance test than enjoyable for me and Florence is my second favorite place I've ever been and I know my way around it fairly well. Unless you really love art, this itinerary might include too much art packed in too small amount of time. I highly recommend the San Marco Museum as a place for restful contemplation. You will need to check it's hours carefully-I think they are open less than some of the other museums.

For a different view of Florence, you might consider a food tour. They are expensive but so worth it. We took one with Walks of Italy (I think that's their name) in Oct 2019 and loved it. I didn't see the Medici Palace on the list, but its not too far from San Marco and definitely worth seeing.

The Biblioteca Piccolomini is worth the side trip to Siena. It's really beautiful.

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Unless you really love art, this itinerary might include too much art
packed in too small amount of time.

I'd agree, and that's a question worth asking: how really into art are all of you? There is no rule that states that you MUST do the Uffizi, for instance, if only lukewarm on the subject. There's no shame at all in giving it a skip. There is so much great art in Florence that it's very easy to get nicely full on lovely, appetizer-sized tastes versus a full-blown 8-course meal, if that makes sense? You might appreciate it more in smaller bites that forcing a bunch down when already on overload.

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I’ll be in Florence all next week, so I can give you more specific details then, but do be aware that with the current COVID natIonal regulations, many places have to be reserved in advance. Of course, for a lot of the popular places, you’d want to reserve in advance anyway. The national regulations also state that all places that sell tickets must be reserved on all weekends and holidays, at least one day in advance. That wasn’t actually the case today when I went to Ravenna. Even though it was a Saturday, every place I went was still selling tickets to people who didn’t have timed reservations. I can let you know what’s happening after I’m there. I find it hard to believe that if a museum/ tourist sight hasn’t filled up all its reservations for the hour/day it’s going to turn people away who don’t have a reservation. They’re not going to turn away paying customers (hopefully)!!

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I agree with others that you are overdoing it and you’ll have to pare off some things to make it both viable and enjoyable. In July, you must also factor that the average high temperature in Florence is in the 90° range and that can slow you down and exhaust you.

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I saw your post before going to bed last night and it actually gave me nightmares. (we are planning a return to Florence this fall, fingers crossed) Honestly it looks more like the Florentine Death March then a visit to a beautiful historic city.

First- which days of the week will you be there? Do check open/close times/days really carefully. I know on our first visit to Florence that was a big issue- some things closed Monday, others Tues, shorter hours etc.

Glad Kathy responded already- I always agree with her advice.

The 2 places still not listed though are Palazzo Vecchio and Santa Croce both which we enjoyed very much. P Vecchio is open late at night as I recall- we visited after dinner and had the place to ourselves. As fans of the Medici series you might enjoy it.
S Croce has tombs of many famous people, the leather workshop around back is also interesting and there likely won’t be a crowd.
The perfumeria near S Maria Novella is also free, interesting and NOT a museum. I love art as much as anyone, my daughter has her doctorate in Art History so visiting art museums is always mandatory but you need to mix it up a bit with non-art sights.

It’s OK to drop a museum or cut visits short- see the important pieces at Uffizi, skip the DaVinci.
(Don’t tell my daughter but we will likely skip Uffizi on our next visit)

Museum of San Marco was one of our favorites, not too big, very beautiful frescoes, peaceful atmosphere, no crowds there either.

Do visit the Medici-Ricardi Palace and at least see the Chapel of the Magi. It probably won’t be crowded there.

I am assuming you will use Firenze Card and not sure how that works these days but it ought to save you quite a few euros. I believe you now do need reservations for Uffizi and Accademia even with the Firenze Card.

Have lunch at Mercato Centrale, have a bistecca Fiorentina dinner 1 night in Oltrarno- maybe after P Michelangelo? and piano! piano! piano!

Make time to eat gelato.


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Woah! My wife and I spent hours in the Uffizi and we're not even Rennaisance art lovers. There is so much to see that even glossing over much of it will still occupy a number of hours. There is absolutely no way that day two can be achieved, it's impossible. You really need to pare back the sights!

Good to see that you've compromised on Pisa, taking into account the overall group attitude to Pisa I think you've achieved the right balance.

Dining wise I can't really recommend anything for Florence, my experience has been quite mediocre. Rome far surpasses Florence for food and I even prefer the less refined Puglian wine to the Tuscan wine. You'll encounter lots of recommendations for bistecca alla fiorentina however Italian beef isn't that good, you can get far better steak in the US so unless you're going down the cliche route I would focus on something else from the menu.

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I am assuming you will use Firenze Card and not sure how that works
these days

LOL, Christine! We're thinking along the same track again! I just checked the Firenzecard site a little bit ago and the museums are not accepting it at all right now. They're apparently still working things out. Oh, and I loved Santa Croce too!

http://www.firenzecard.it/en

Even with the card some of the museums required timed-entry reservations, and very likely will again. Dang it, kursed, no way you can scratch Pisa in favor of a fast, early train straight to Florence so you can ease even a little of the frenzied Firenze plan?

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One more thought? You've mentioned some things your wife wants to do on this trip but also that you two will visit again in the future. To make things easier on all of you, especially your mom, is Siena a must-do this time? Could you add those days to Florence and do Siena with your sweetie on a future trip?

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So we tried to trim so fat. ** Denotes our must see

Day one- After visiting Pisa, we should arrive in Florence around 1-2pm.
**Galleria Accademia @ 3pm (not open on Monday)

These will will do depending on time
Piazza della Signoria
Piazza della Reppublica
Pet Boar
Ponte Vecchio Bridge

Day 2-
*Uffizi Gallery (in the morning)
*
Duomo (Cathedral of Santa Maria del Fiore) This will be around 12:30pm
Piazza Michelango (in the evening)

Day 3-
*Basilica di San Lorenzo
*
Museo di San Marco
**Museo Medico- (Palazzo Medici Riccardi)

These we will fit in if we have time on any of the three days after out "must see". Depending on the time left in the day and hours.
Mercato Centreal
Santa Maria Novella
Museo Nazinole Bargello
Basilica di Santa Croce

Getting there...whew

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Sounds very exciting!

I haven’t been to Florence for 10 years. I recall saying to myself to research a walking tour. It seems like a must-do in a city like Florence. I’m not sure what companies are there.

I plan to be there the first week of October for 3 nights so am happily following this thread.

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Looking much better! That said, your schedule didn't have exact dates so there's some guesswork here but based on a comment you made earlier....

San Marco: Their hours are frustratingly short so don't dawdle getting there. Their ticketing site (b-ticket) website lists hours as:

Visiting hours:
Monday to Sunday: 8:15 – 13:50.

Closing:
The first, third and fifth Sunday, the second and fourth Monday of the month; 1st January, 1st May, Christmas.

It's the closed dates that worry me as I've a feeling your Day 3 might be a Monday towards the end of the month (July)?

Accademia: their official ticketing site (b-ticket again) states that they are now closed Mondays - Wednesdays. I think you're planning on doing that one on a Saturday so no problem? Making a 3:00 PM (15:00) time slot would be overly optimistic if you don't arrive in Florence until 2:00 so I'd shoot for getting into town earlier. Remember that it can take time to get checked in (or have the hotel stow your bags) and then weave your way through unfamiliar streets!

Santa Maria Del Fiore (duomo): Looks like you have that one scheduled for Sunday (?) but the cathedral itself is closed on Sundays. However, the museum and bell tower ARE open!

Website:
https://duomo.firenze.it/en/home
Ticketing:
https://operaduomofirenze.skiperformance.com/en/store#/en/buy

Be careful with "Museo Medico" as there isn't a museum of that name, and if it's "Museo de' Medici" you meant, that isn't Palazzo Medici Riccardi. Just making sure you have the one you want! 😉

http://www.palazzomediciriccardi.it/en/palace/

B-ticket is also the official ticketing site for the Uffizi, Medici Chapels (Cappelle Medicee, attached to San Lorenzo) and the Bargello. The site provides open/closed information on all.

http://www.b-ticket.com/b-Ticket/uffizi/default_eng.aspx

Kudos for all your hard work on this trip! You are going to have a marvelous time!!!!

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One thought having reviewed your Florence itinerary.
Give long and careful consideration to selecting the MOST comfortable shoes you can find. :-)

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So the wife said all she wants is to see where they lived and see where they are buried. I belive they lived in Ricardi and buried in San Lorenzo?

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Here is the list of burials in San Lorenzo, chapels and crypt.

https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/639303/memorial-search?page=1#sr-91923706

Clicking on any of them will bring up some background on the individual, a pix of their tomb, if available, and some family connections. Those without tomb pix either are likely buried without markings or their graves are not accessible to visitors. Photography also wasn't allowed in the chapels when we were there.

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Well kursed30,

It appears you have received a lot of suggestions and traveler experience.

I was inspired and am now mapping out my own trip to Florence.

I've looked at a couple of hotels in the city area and they are taking bookings through next year. I did a faux booking with a non-refundable room -- cancellation up to 24 hours before.

Have fun planning!

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Planning this has been exhausting. lol. It started out fun but doing 2 weeks in multiple cities with a group of 6 has wore me out. Trying to see enough of Italy has been challenging but with all the great advice I have received has made it easier. It would have been easier if we planned on multiple return trips but I don't know when or if we will be back. There are to many places in Europe I need to visit. That is the one big downfall of watching to many travel shows. It has opened me up to wanting to see as much of the world as I can. I am 43 years old. I wish I could have started years ago. I think we are about 98% done with our planning. Maybe once I am done I will post our final draft.

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It sounds like you need a vacation, kursed30! 😆

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Haha. You have a good sense of humor. You, your wife, and your family will do well "if" you hit any little blips along the way.

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As far as Piazza della Reppublica goes, stop there in the evening. It is magical at night with the carousel. Get a gelato and find a spot to people watch. Lots of street vendors selling inexpensive LED toys for the kids are usually there as well. Not too far from the piazza is Osteria Nuvoli, which is a great little cafe with seating in the wine cellar.

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Hopefully the Firenze card will be able to be used again soon. Even though we were only in Florence for 1-1/2 days we loved having it for the skip-the-line access. We also made some impromptu stops at places not on our original itinerary-Medici Chapels, Medici-Riccardi Museum, and Basilica of Santa Croce. We had a wonderful dinner at L’Osteria di Giovanni. We ate in their basement wine cellar. I also have Osteria del Cinghiale Bianco on my dinner list for next trip (from Stanley Tucci’s show).

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Even though we were only in Florence for 1-1/2 days we loved having it
for the skip-the-line access

This issue here is that things may have changed since you were in Florence. I'll repeat what I'd posted above: While the card may cover the ticket price of a fair amount attractions, more recently many, such as the Uffizi, Accademia, Pitti and Palazzo Medici Riccardi, have required advance reservations even if using the card. So, you'd need both the card AND a timed-entry reservation to avoid entry queues.

The only reliable resource for CURRENT information about the Firenzecard is the website for the card itself.

http://www.firenzecard.it/en

The list of museums the card covers + which of them more recently required advance reservations (when the card was active) is here:
http://www.firenzecard.it/en/musei

Apologies for the redundancy, kursed30, but it's really important to go by the most current info. What was standard procedure a couple of years ago may not be the case when you go!

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I am not seeing where you have a reservation for a Bisteca dinner....A MUST when we visit, it's always on our Florence Itinerary just like a museum reservation. Also a sandwich at All'Antico Vinaio, eaten on the street, just find a spot (but not in a merchant doorway!).

There are lots of merchant stalls around the Mercato Centrale, I would suggest you give yourself time to walk around there, we found a leather bound notebook with a closure for my stepson, he cherished it.

The Mercato Centrale upstairs food court is absolute bedlam. Quality is better than in the US (duh), but mediocre by Italian standards. I got separated from my husband, and even though I'm a 6 foot blonde who sticks out in a crowd, it took 20 minutes to find each other again. Getting a place to sit was a bloodsport.

GROM gelato. Go there, please. Ditto for Konnubio restaurant, lunch or dinner are brilliant.

Regarding any itinerary, but especially Florence:

  1. Do less, but do it better. There is only so much world-class art you can absorb in a day.

  2. Know where the attractions are relative to each other so you don't criss cross the city.
    And know what days they are closed!

  3. For any top museum or landmark, be the First Entry of the Day. Be half-finished before the tour buses arrive.

  4. You can no more "do" the Uffizi than you can do the Louvre or The Met in a day. Plan which paintings you want to see, download a gallery map and mark their location, and then be strategic when you arrive.

  5. Skip the line tickets are essential, and here's a reality check:
    At the Uffizi in midApril 2019, the skip-the-line line was long before they opened for the day. Once we got up to the door, security inspection took at least 20 minutes, and then the line to go through the turnstile took another 20 minutes. Allow 15 minutes for a bathroom visit. Take only a modest purse; a backpack or large bag means that you will have to deal with the bag check line, too. Later in the day just gets worse.

At the Accademia with our skip-the-line tickets, we were almost the first in the door, so we got a good look at the David, but within 30 minutes the room was shoulder-to-shoulder. Pro-tip: You can save your time and sanity by seeing an excellent replica of David in the original location at the Piazza della Signoria, if that's all you want to see at the Accademia.

Same crowds at the Medici chapels but worse organization.

The line to enter the Duomo (skip the line tickets were not possible) snaked around the building by 8am for the 10am opening. The line never got any shorter in the 18 days we were there. Attending Mass is your best bet to go inside. By the way, the Duomo's art is mostly in the Duomo Museum, not the Duomo itself.

To see the Ponte Vecchio, we arrived right after breakfast to watch the shops being set up for the day. There were beautifully carved medieval doors, but within an hour, the bridge was too crowded to see anything at all.

In contrast, arriving at the Pitti Palace at 9am, tickets were half price for the early birds. In most galleries -- all filled with masterpieces! -- the only other person was a bored guard, looking at his smartphone. Again, you need to know what pieces of art you want to see because it is gargantuan, and the placards are hard to see. Seriously, the Pitti Palace complex is over-the-top enormous. Your legs and brain will be on overload. Don't skip the Treasury. The gardens took us at least another hour. Very restorative. You could spend several days just at the Pitti museums (I think there are 5 there).

The second and third tier museums of Florence are not crowded, and in any other city, they would be the star attraction. Consider these two for a change of pace:

  1. Museo Marino Marini, free, near Santa Maria Novella, has wonderful architecture and modern sculpture (lots of horses), giving a needed palate cleanser from Renaissance paintings. A friend who is an artist made sure we went there. Good call. Allow 30-60 minutes.

  2. If you care about science at all, go to the Galileo Museum, near the Ponte Vecchio. The Medicis funded Galileo, so his scientific instruments are also works of art. As the galleries go on, you work through later centuries of science, even getting some hands-on demonstrations. Allow 30-120 minutes, depending on your interest and energy.

We LOVED our trip to Florence.

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Basilica di Santa Croce is always a must see for me. Tombs of famous Italians, Cimabue’s crucifix , Pazzi chapel, and more.

Medici Chapel, and Mercato Sant’Ambrogio, too. I would definitely leave some time for food, desserts and people watching always a wonderful treat in Florence.
You may want to visit the Oltrarno, the other side of the river. It has fantastic restaurants at Piazza Santo Spirito (a good visit) and time to visit local artisan workshops (leather goods, clothes, furniture).
I love Florence and I hope you have a wonderful visit.

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Recent development regarding one of my previous notes above:

Firstly, is your trip this July (2021)? If so, you can eliminate the
interior of the baptistry as it's closed for restoration.

They've decided to re-open it with 4 of the 8 walls finished. The other 4 are still under scaffolding until the end of the year but at least you could see the 4 which are done + the glorious ceiling.

https://www.theflorentine.net/2021/07/05/florence-baptistery-reopens-july-3-2021/

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These are great ideas for Florence. Just to add, someone above mentioned GROM gelato. We loved their gelato. It’s so good!