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Adding a stop to Florence anniversary trip?

Hi everyone - Im beginning to plan an anniversary trip. It's VERY early in the process (likely too early) but I need a little pick me up and planning travel really brings me joy. But I digress...

This will be our 10th anniversary. We have young kids. It would be nice to do an adults only trip (our first since they arrived!) and I think we can reasonably ask their grandparents to watch them for 6 days plus 2 days travel time and we will be forever indebted to them! We both would like to go to Florence and maybe 1 other place. Our preferred style of traveling is staying in one place for a few days to walk around and get a feel for it rather than catching a train to a new city every other day. We have previously visited Rome and the Amalfi Coast.

So with that I'm debating - should we spend 4 days in Florence and then add another stop? Would you recommend adding Venice and is 2 days enough? Spouse is not very interested in Venice but is willing to go. I think it sounds nice to go once and see the canals. Would Cinque Terre be another option instead of Venice? Or should we consider somewhere else or stay in Florence for the full 6 days and just enjoy relaxed meals and walking around? Our main criteria are convenience and minimizing travel time since our kid-free hours are so limited. Unfortunately it does not seem like there are non stop flights between Washington DC / Dulles and Florence or Venice which would be our preference. Thank you for any recommendations!

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Concensus, that's what's needed here.

Me, I like the idea of ALL the nights in Florence, take a step back from CT and Venice and look around for the 1/2 notch below to day trips to say Siena, or Luca, or Pistoia, or Montecatini Terme - lots to see, easier pace yet still packing a big historical punch.

Did you mention a time of year?

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Congrats!
I think anyone could make a strong case for a week in Florence. I also think 3-4 in Florence and 2-3 in another small Tuscan village would be lovely. Without a car, Siena is often the one recommended. With a car, anywhere.
I would save Venice, and CT takes a very long time on train to get to that I would absolutely not spare on such a short trip. For anyone interested in CT, the questions are: What month? and Do you like hiking? (If not interested in the latter, there are a number of pretty seaside villages that do not get as crowded).
Check Pisa flights too (open-jaw with Florence), if you do end up with your heart set on CT. Depending on flight times, you could start with a couple nights in CT and the rest in Florence (or vice versa). I fly out of DC and one stop won't be too bad (particularly in Germany, where airports just are not as miserable--try to avoid London or Paris for layovers).

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I agree with periscope. Stay in Florence and daytrip to Sienna and Lucca, two of my favorites. Take the bus to Siena and train to Lucca. If you feel you must add somewhere else you could get a car for a few days and find a nice agriturismo to stay in and explore some hill towns. If you’re interested in that you can PM me for the name of an agriturismo we stayed at near Siena that’s my favorite place I’ve ever stayed. How many nights will you be away from home? I find that to be the easiest way to plan. For example, if you can be away for a week (7 nights) you will lose 1 night to reach Italy and be down to 6 nights. If you spend 3 nights in Florence you would have 2 full days there and 3 nights for an agriturismo and hill towns for 2 full days. Since you would be staying in the same region you won’t waste time transitioning. Time of year is important to know for the best advice.

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Consider flying nonstop Dulles to Rome, then train to Florence (the train takes less than 3 hours).

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Can you find any good connections into/out of Milan? That would definitely put Venice on the map.
The CT is too much. Again, what season?
Safe travels!

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I agree to stay all nights in Florence. It's nice that your spouse is willing to go to Venice even though not very interested, but since this a short trip and it's your anniversary I recommend skipping it for now.
I also recommend day trips to Siena and Lucca. You could also go to Fiesole from Florence for even half a day. There are several buses a day that take you there.
No need to fly directly to Florence, take a non-stop from DC to Rome or Milan (whichever is cheaper and/or better timing) and then take a fast train to Florence. I spend a week in Florence in 2018 and flew in and out of Milan as it was a bit cheaper at the time, and I had never been to Milan.
What a wonderful trip, good luck!

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I would spend two nights in Siena so I could take one of the Tours by Roberto tours, but they are pricey.

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Time of year is important. Please share.

I also vote for staying put in Florence. Walks of Italy offers a day trip to Siena passing through San Gimignano. That would be a great way to see the Tuscan countryside without moving.

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There are so many wonderful smaller towns in the area. Personally I found Florence too crowded and touristy. Would definitely put Sienna high on the list.
Cinque Terre hands down over Venice!

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For an anniversary trip for (tired) parents of young children, I'll vote for spending it all in Florence too. It's a GREAT base for day trips, and bunking down there for the duration allows you the flexibility to day trip or not as desired. Raining? Stay in town and do inside stuff. Sunny and dry? Hop a train or bus to Siena, Lucca, Fiesole... Need a rest-up day to do not much at all? Easy walkabouts are at your doorstep.

How many NIGHTS on the ground will you have to work with? It makes a difference. Same for time of year.

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Wow - this board is such a wealth of information and kindness. Thank you! Based on your responses I did a little searching online and I watched Rick's episode on Siena tonight (available on Amazon prime). I'm sold! We didn't know about the town, but we love history and museums and art and it seems like a nice place to visit. We will have 6 nights in Italy and are generally flexible in time of the year to visit. My preference would be May or early June. Otherwise September / October. Living in the DC area we are well acquainted with hot and humid weather and do not wish to deal with that on our trip.

I will be doing a little more research in the area to determine if we should a) stay in Florence all 6 nights and maybe do 4 days in Florence, 1 day Siena day trip, 1 day tuscan wine country tour or b) stay in Florence 4/5 nights and 1 night in Siena. I like the idea of not moving hotels and just resting, but based on what I'm reading it also seems like Siena might be most enjoyable early in the morning or late in the day when all the day trippers (that could be us!) are gone. So I will be thinking about those options next. The Tuscan wine country tour would be nice but while we do like drinking wine, we only want to see one winery. I appreciate the craft of wine making but we don't have sophisticated enough palates to appreciate the differences. I don't want to do the Siena, winery all in 1 day that Walks of Italy does. That seems too rushed. I welcome any other thoughts! Many thanks to all

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We will have 6 nights in Italy

That will provide you 5.5 days: a partial arrival day plus 5 full sightseeing days. If you want to do both a 1 day Siena day trip and 1 day Tuscan wine country tour, that leaves you 3.5 days for Florence itself. Whatever you decide to do, it's generally recommended to be staying in your departure city the night before your flight home.

Cala mentioned "Tours by Roberto"? We've not taken one ourselves but they come VERY highly recommended by posters who've done so: worth the price, and could be a special anniversary treat. They're available out of Florence as well as Siena; see the website and calendar for joinable tours, or contact them for a private excursion, if interested. If going the private route, you could customize what you want to do/see, such as, say, seeing the Tuscan countryside and a small town or two without stops for wineries.

https://www.toursbyroberto.com

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Andrea, I sent you a private message for the name of the agriturismo near Sienna. We are planning a September trip and want to return to Sienna. Thanks.

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Taking you very seriously that what you want from this trip is relaxed meals, walking around, convenience, and minimizing travel time, and assuming that you picked Florence because you enjoy art, architecture, and history (even though you didn't say so), here's what I would do if I were you. This is based on my already having spent 6 weeks in Florence (and planning to spend another 5 or 6 weeks there) and also a week in Siena (and would happily return).

Fly non-stop Dulles to Rome and (if you can make this work) take the one train in the early afternoon that will take you from the airport to Florence without your having to change trains in Rome. Otherwise, train to Rome and then catch another train to Florence.

Stay for all 5 nights in Florence, somewhere a bit away from the very center. My husband and I like the Oltrarno and the Sant'Ambrogio areas. We greatly prefer renting apartments, partly because having only one small hotel room is the opposite of relaxing for us. if you choose an apartment with a helpful, English-speaking host, you do not need the help that people say a hotel will give you.

I so hate to say this, but just do a long day-trip by bus to Siena. Leave as early in the morning as you can and return to Florence after dinner. It is amazingly time-consuming and non-relaxing to move for one night. If you really really want to do it anyway, leave most of your stuff in your accommodation in Florence and just take what you need for a night and day in Siena, and stay in a hotel.

Others have mentioned some of the other wonderful towns you could visit (I would vote for Pistoia), but Florence is so packed with things to see and do that I'm not sure that more train or bus travel is what you want to do. If you decide otherwise, once you are there, you can do it spontaneously, without booking a tour or ticket in advance.

I would skip the wine tour. My husband knows wine and I certainly enjoy it, so we have visited wineries and vineyards and tried the local wines all over Italy, and I have to say that (here comes some heresy!) in general Tuscan wines are our least favorite. Plus, you don't sound as though a wine tour is your top choice. You can try some Tuscan wine in any restaurant or enoteca in Florence.

You really must spend your last night before your flight home in Rome. You can see some more of Rome, if you want to, or just arrive at the hotel in the evening. The Hotel Berna is a very close walking distance to the train station.

As for the time of year, both Florence and Siena will be plenty busy with tourists in May/June and in September/October --- there really is no "shoulder season" in those two places any more. But you can strategize. Visit popular sites very early or very late in the day, eat your main meal at lunch and take a long time doing it, and seek out the less famous but still incredible sites in Florence. If I had to choose a week, I would choose one in late October. I grew up in Washington DC, and I would do almost anything to avoid heat and humidity and tourist crowds.

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October would be a great time to visit. Compare nonstop flights from DC to Rome or DC to Milan. You can take a high speed train from each to Florence. Also check the departure time for the return flight. I agree with others regarding staying in the city from which you will be flying. We had an early flight home from Rome and stayed at the Hilton FCO. It was an easy walk from there to the terminal to catch our flight.

When we visited Siena, we stayed until early evening. Your impressions are correct, being there early morning and at night would be wonderful. The topography of Siena is very different from Florence, it has a different vibe. They are sufficiently different to warrant seeing both.

Carefully consider all aspects including getting to and from Florence from the city you fly into. Determine if you can squeeze in a move to Siena without feeling rushed. Also think about the cost of flying, which will be a substantial amount of the cost of the trip. As grandparents ourselves, I know it will be a lot, but if you could extend your trip for 3 days (or even 2), it would really expand your options.

Finally, if you are in Chianti, I think visiting one winery would be plenty. If at all possible, do a food and wine pairing. Chianti is not a sipping wine and is best appreciated when served with complementary food. We did a food and wine tasting that consisted of prosecco as the aperitivo, Chianti with the antipasti, Chianti Reserva with the primi, their Super Tuscan with the secondi and vin santo with biscotti as the dolce.

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A bit of an outlier here, but why not take a connecting flight right to Florence? Out of Dulles, there are choices of 2:40 layover in Munich or even a :50 flight change in Vienna. In Munich, that 2:40 would go fast and sometimes, it’s nice to have a bit of exercise. Consider time to deplane, catch your breath and get to the next gate where boarding most likely will commence :40 prior and you might only have a little over an hour to kill. Not bad in my book. German beer? A good German dessert stop? Food in European airports is generally better with many more choices and not so pricey as in the US in my experience. We transited Munich a couple of years ago to fly into Salzburg and it was fast, easy to do and I did appreciate the exercise. You would arrive straight away at your destination and since you have such a spare amount of time in Florence, it might be worth the connection.
An absolute delight that you’re planning this-very special. And congratulations on your 10th!