20 days Italy, 10 days Greece itineray help

Trying to minimise hotel changes and travelling with luggage for you ...
Oct 20 - To Florence (5 nts), with a stop in Pisa
Oct 21 - Florence
Oct 22 - Florence
Oct 23 - Day trip to Siena
Oct 24 - Day trip to San Gimignano and Volterra (??)
Oct 25 - To Rome (4 nts)
Oct 26 - Rome
Oct 27 - Rome
Oct 28 - Rome
Oct 29 - To Sorrento (4nts), with a stop in Naples
Oct 30 - Day trip to Pompeii and Herculaneum
Oct 31 - Day trip to Capri
Nov 1 - Day trip to Positano+Amalfi
Nov 2 - To Naples airport and flight to Athens

So, I updated my itinerary... any further thoughts?

Oct 12 - Arrive Milan, sleep Milan
Oct 13 - Morning to Bergamo, day in Bergamo, sleep Bergamo
Some have suggested a day trip from Milan. Logically why backtrack to Milan?
Am I missing something?
Oct 14 - Morning to Verona, day in Verona, sleep Verona or Venice
Oct 15 - Venice, sleep Venice
Oct 16 - Venice, sleep Venice
Oct 17 - Venice, sleep Venice
Oct 18 - to Florence, sleep Florence
Oct 19 - day trip to Pisa and Lucca, sleep Florence
Oct 20 - Florence, sleep Florence
Oct 21 - Florence, sleep Florence
Oct 22 - to Siena, sleep Siena
Oct 23 - Siena, afternoon trip to San Gimignano, sleep Siena
Oct 24 - to Ovieto, night Ovieto
Oct 25 - Ovieto & Civita di Bagnoregio, night Ovieto
Oct 26 - to Rome, night Rome
Oct 27 - Rome, night Rome
Oct 28 - Rome, night Rome
Oct 29 - Rome, night Rome
Oct 30 - to Naples, night Naples

Oct 31 - Naples, night Naples Pompeii

Nov 1 - Naples, night Naples Herculaneum
Nov 2 - to Naples airport. Athens Greece 11:50am

Hi Fred,
From the description of your itinerary, it looks like you are on a whirl wind tour, and are trying to catch the best of Italy and Greece. I really think you have a solid idea about your points of interest.

I see you are spending 3 days in Venice. Have you given any thoughts to Veneto region, which is not far from Venice, and is an area blessed by luck and unknown to most people, made of ancient walled cities, amazing villas with magnificent art masterpieces, gentle and fascinating landscapes that offer high quality products which become tasty dishes through the hands of skilled chefs.

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Donna

Fred,

I like the idea you are spending at least 2 nights in each city! So many people try to cover more cities and spend a lot of time just travelling to get there.

My thoughts are you have 1 night allocated for each Siena and Orvieto, and 1 night left in the middle. Siena could be a day trip from Florence which would give you 2 nights in Orvieto.

Or, you can day trip to Orvieto from Rome, and keep 2 nights in Siena. However, if you day trip from Rome to Orvieto, you would not have time for Civita. That is a day trip from Orvieto in itself.

It just depends which towns you want to see more of. I personally love Civita, and enjoyed having to walk up the hill to get there. It is tiny and not much to do besides relax and enjoy the scenery, food, and drink!

I would head to Siena from Venice, and then to Florence ...
Oct 12 - Arrive Milan, sleep Milan (1)
Oct 13 - Morning to Bergamo, day in Bergamo, sleep Bergamo (1)
Oct 14 - Morning to Verona, day in Verona, sleep Verona (1)
Oct 15 - Venice, sleep Venice (3)
Oct 16 - Venice, sleep Venice
Oct 17 - Venice, sleep Venice
Oct 18 - to Florence, sleep Florence (4)
Oct 19 - Florence, sleep Florence
Oct 20 - Florence, day trip to Pisa and Lucca, sleep Florence
Oct 21 - Florence, sleep Florence
Oct 22 - to Siena, sleep Siena (2)
Oct 23 - Siena, afternoon trip to San Gimignano, sleep Siena
Oct 24 - to Orvieto (via change of train in Chiusi), sleep Orvieto (2)
Oct 25 - Orvieto & Civita di Bagnoregio, sleep Orvieto
Oct 26 - to Rome, sleep Rome (4)
Oct 27 - Rome, sleep Rome
Oct 28 - Rome, sleep Rome
Oct 29 - Rome, sleep Rome
Oct 30 - to Naples, sleep Naples (3)
Oct 31 - Naples, Pompeii, sleep Naples
Nov 1 - Naples, Herculaneum, sleep Naples
Nov 2 - to Naples airport. Athens Greece 11:50am

Interesting suggestion. What is the reasoning for this? It looks like travelling farther to Siena then backtracking to Florence.
Also, would it not be more difficult to travel to Pisa from Siena, rather than Florence?

Thanks Charlotte,
You will notice I posted a update to my itinerary and have two nights for both Siena and Ovieto so I will be visiting Civita.

San Gimignano is easier from Siena (by bus). Also, Siena is a on a branch line and the best logistics usually involve travel thru Florence regardless. I also liked 3 nights in each of Siena and Florence, but I think you are right to do Pisa and Lucca from Florence, where you have more direct trains.I have reverted to your revised option above. I like it. It works perfectly.