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1st Family Trip To Italy

Hey there...

Just after some adice or any tips.

1st time in Italy and a family of 5 (Kids - 18,14,13).

We start off in Paris for 5 days then have chosen to fly into Naples on 22nd August this year.

We fly out of Milan on 7th September.

The main purpose of this trip...Its my 50th and I'm being selfish for a change and would like to spend it on the AC : )

I dont wish it to be too complicated due to the younger kids (13&14) and would like to take time and smell the roses so to speak.

Thoughts are picking 2 maybe 3 bases.

Option 1:

Minori - 22nd - 28th (27 is my 50th so would like to be somewhere nice)

Rome - 28th Aug - 31st Sept

Florence - 31st Aug - 4th Sept

Milan - 4th SSept - 7th Sept - (Fly Home)

Option 2:

Sorrento - 22nd Aug - 25th Aug (1st base to travel)

Minori - 25th Aug - 28th Aug (27th my Bday)

Florence - 28th Aug - 4th Sept (2nd base to travel)

Milan - 4th Sept - 7th Sept - (Fy Home)

Option 3: ---- Keeping it really simple

Sorrento - 22nd Aug - 28th Aug (1st base to travel)

Florence - 28th Aug - 4th Sept (2nd base to travel)

Milan - 4th Sept - 7th Sept - (Fy Home)

Open to any suggetsions at all.

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How do the kids feel about having only 2 full days (or 0 days) in Rome? It feels unusual to me to devote so little time to Rome on a first trip to Italy, especially since you have 15 days available for Italy and are going to be traveling beyond Rome to the Amalfi Coast. But perhaps you are a family of art lovers who want to prioritize the Renaissance art in Florence over the ancient ruins in Rome?

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Thanks @acraven.

Ancient ruins would be the preferred....thats our cup of tea.

The thinking was to get to Florence as a base and do a couple of day trips to Rome....but by the sounds of it, we shoul devote more time to Rome.

Would you suggest 4 full days is enough?

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Florence as a base and do a couple of day trips to Rome

Do yourself a favor and put this thought in the trash can. Please.

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All great places. My favorite place in Italy is Sorrento, love it. We’ve stayed 3 times at Hotel La Tonnarella which has their own private beach. Very fun to swim in the Med, float around in a tube, or relax in a lounge chair. There’s an elevator that takes you up and down from hotel to beach. They have a great restaurant, fantastic buffet breakfast, several terraces with mind blowing views, and parking. Easy walk into the heart of town. I think your kids will really like the town and the beach.

If you go to Capri, there’s a business there right where you get off the ferry called “Banana Boats”, they rent very nice motorized boats that you drive yourself, they easily seat 6 or more people, have a canopy for sun, a ladder and an anchor. We always rent one for the day and go all around Capri, stopping wherever to swim. We bring food with us. Super fun and reasonably price.

Taking a ferry to Positano and back is also fun. The best one we’ve taken was small, it seated maybe 20 people.

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Anytime you're thinking of making two day trips to the same place that's not, say, a suburb of the city where you're staying, I think you need to be very, very certain it's the right move. The two round trips require a lot of travel time. Trains between Florence and Rome take a minimum of 1 hr. 34 min. each way.

How close will your hotel be to Santa Maria Novella Station in Florence? To the scheduled time on the train, you have to add the time traveling between your Florence hotel and S. M. Novella and between Roma Termini and the sights you want to see in Rome. I'd anticipate 30 minutes extra in each direction, and it could easily be much more (such as to the Vatican).

You also cannot expect to walk into a train station and right onto your train; for one thing, they close and lock the doors before departure time. I always want to get to the station at least 10 minutes early, and that's risky in the case of trips from Florence to Rome and vice versa. The fast trains between Florence and Rome have reserved seats, so the tickets you buy are specific to one train. If you miss that train, you'll have to buy replacement tickets at a probably very high walk-up price. I see that today's price for tomorrow's Florence-Rome Freccia trains is 55 euros one-way, per person. I don't know at what age discounts for children end, but even the two adult tickets would be painful. So I'm betting you'd want a bit more than my 10-minute buffer at the train station.

That 94-minute travel time + 30 minutes traveling to and from train stations + 10 minutes extra at the outbound station adds up to 2-1/4 hours each way, or 4-1/2 hours per day of sightseeing time lost to traveling back and forth.

I'm actually not much interested in ancient Roman sights (I'm more into art and modern history), so I'm not the best one to say whether four days a reasonable allocation for your family. I'd suggest looking at Rick's list of top sightseeing tips for Rome to see how many of them you really want to see. He has such lists for a lot of major destinations right on this website.

https://www.ricksteves.com/europe/italy/rome << Click on "At a Glance".

I think Rick is really good at identifying the key sights from a cultural, historical and visual point of view, but individual travelers need to consider their own interests. (I've never been inside the Colosseum or the Forum.)

Rome is large and the sights are somewhat scattered. You can burn a lot of time just getting from one to another, because Rome's Metro system doesn't cover the city particularly well or densely. To get an idea of how scattered your possible sightseeing targets are, open a map of Rome on Google Maps, then enter the names of the things you want to see, one at a time, and click "Save" after each one. That will give you a map showing how much moving around you'll need to do. It will also suggest areas of the city that might be good places to stay.

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Hello :)
Happy early Birthday & congrats on your 1st trip to Italy.
We are currently planning our 4th
Having stayed at all the places in your 3 options:

I would choose:
Sorrento 1st home base (visit capri, Positano Amalfi, Ravello, Minori etc... if you can or desire)
Rome 2nd home base (at least 2 or 3 nights)
Florence 3rd home base (make sure to visit some hilltop villages in Tuscany)
Milan 4th home base (at least 2 nights)


As you may or may not know the big 3 in Italy are Rome Florence & Venice

But our favorites are Sorrento, Amalfi Coast, Hilltop cities all over Tuscany, Cinque Terre, & the Lake District.
We are not big city people. But Rome & Florence are must do's.
Do not day trip to Rome from Florence as others have said.

Here is where we have visited for reference. (we ALWAYS rent a car in Tuscany) some of the most beautiful drives in the world.
ITALY 2017 & 2019 & 2022 Summary
ITALY CITIES SLEPT IN
Monticchiello (Tuscany) 5 nights
San Quirico Val D’Orcia 5 nights
Sorrento 4 nights
Castiglione (Ravello) (Amalfi Coast) 4 nights
Rome 4 nights
Stresa (Lake Maggiore) 4 nights
Levanto 4 nights
Venice 3 nights
Florence 3 nights
Turin 3 nights
Como (Lake Como) 3 nights
Bellano (Lake Como) 3 nights
Milan 3 nights
Monterosso Al Mare (Cinque Terre) 2 nights
Montipulciano (Tuscany) 1 night
51 Total nights as of 7/29/2022

ITALY CITIES VISITED
(A visit is defined as a city that we spent at least a few hours in and maybe slept and/or had a meal and/or shopped.)

Monticchiello
San Quirico Val D’Orcia
Sorrento
Castiglione (Ravello)
Rome
Stresa
Levanto
Venice
Florence
Turin
Como
Bellano
Milan
Monterosso Al Mare
Montipulciano
Val d'Orcia
Arezzo
Cortona
Assisi
Spello
Pienza
San Quirico d'Orcia
Montalcino
Greve in Chianti
Lucca
Pisa
Volterra
Civita
Orvieto
Amalfi
Ravello
Minori
Maiori
Capri
Positano
Monterosso Al Mare (Cinque Terre)
Vernazza (Cinque Terre)
Corniglia (Cinque Terre)
Manarola (Cinque Terre)
Riomaggiore (Cinque Terre)
La Spezia
Monteriggioni
Siena
San Gimignano
Sant’Agnello
Isola Bella
Isola Madre
Isola Superior
Villa Taranto, Verbania
Pallanza, Verbania
Baveno
Varenna
Bellagio
Menaggio
Lenno
Portofino
Portovenere
Monteriggione
San Quirico D’ Orcia
Alto Vignoni
Monticchiello
Pitigliano
Bolsena (Lake Bolsena)
Orvieto
Bagno Vignoni
San Quirico D’ Orcia
Castiglione D’ Orcia
Monte Amiata
Bagno Vignoni
Horti Leonini
Pienza
Bagni San Filippo
Radicofani
Buonconvento
Montipulciano


JUST PASSING THROUGH
Atrani
Praino
Agerola
Salerno
Naples

AIRPORTS WE HAVE FLOWN IN OR OUT OF
Venice VCE
Rome FCO
Milan MXP

Hope this helps... Sorry it's so long.
Happy Planning!
:)

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Some great advice above, but I want to add that Rome will be swelteringly hot in late August. And if you're planning on Pompeii, it will be even hotter. You say you love old ruins rather than museums, so this means you will spend a good deal of time out in the hot, muggy sunlight. Have you looked at the temperatures? It's not only hot, it's humid. I've been to Rome in August, I still recall how uncomfortable it was. Can you get the clan out super early to see the sites? This might give you some ideas about ways to escape the heat in Rome - https://www.romewise.com/keep-cool-in-rome.

I'm voting for Option 3 because it minimizes moves between places & gives you more time in the north. I think it's OK to skip Rome on your first trip to Italy, given the time of year. Stick to ferries along the AC, stay off the roads, lots of traffic & jammed small towns. And if you do choose to spend 6 days in Florence, agree with others who say don't waste your time. Stick with Tuscany.

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Wow...blown away with the helpful advice....really appreciate it.

Option 3 with a mini addition of Rome is looking good.

Soooo so much to see!! Will have to come back obviously : )

We are used to fairly hot temps...have worked previously in the Turks & Caicos for 3 years and also in outback Australia for another few...not sure if thats the same...kids will probably whinge but dont they all : )

Looking somehting like this.....keeping in mind the flights are already booked.

  • Aug 22nd - Arrive Naples 2pm from Paris / Travel to Sorrento
  • Aug 23 - 27th - Sorrento and just see AC from ferry trips etc.
  • *Aug 28th - Travel from Sorrento - Rome (Via Naples) ...catch a train*.
  • Aug 29 - 30th Rome
  • *Aug 31st - Travel from Rome to Florence (Train)*
  • Sept 1st - 4th - Florence & surrounds. - *Sept 5th** - Travel from Florence to Milan (Train)*
  • Sept 6th - Milan
  • Sept 7th - Fly out of Rome to Dubai (2 days here) then back to Australia :(
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Florence is actually a bit hotter than Rome in the summer, if you can judge by the average high termperatures shown in the Wikipedia climate charts for the two cities.

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Hello again :)
I agree with your option 3 and adding Rome :)
Have a great time! And enjoy your 50th birthday :)

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I don't understand the final leg which has you in Milan for one night from Florence. Why not Florence back to Rome?

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Hi jasonoska74 -
I guess i'm wondering about Milan too. Is there something in particular you want to see or do there? If. not, you can reduce your bases to three. If Roman excavations are your thing, you'll want to spend a good chunk of time in Rome. There you'll have the Colosseum/Forum/Palatine; Domus Aurea; Baths of Caracalla; Parco Appia Antica (include a catacomb); Pantheon; Castel Sant'Angelo; Largo di Torre Argentina, an easy day trip to Ostia Antica... The hits just keep on coming! With enough time to give The Eternal City, you can do a good selection of these without having to cram a bunch in at a dead run. In the heat. And the crowds. Example:

Aug 22nd - Arrive Naples 2pm from Paris / Travel to Sorrento
Aug 23 - 27th - Sorrento and just see AC from ferry trips etc.
Aug 28th - Travel from Sorrento - Florence (Via Naples) by rail
Aug 29 - 31st Florence, Look at a short bus ride up to Fiesole's Etruscan-Roman Archeological area one day; https://www.visitflorence.com/fiesole/top-things-to-see.html
Sept 1st - Travel to Rome by rail
Sept 2nd - Sept 6th - Rome
Sept 7th - Fly out of Rome to Dubai then back to Australia